RE: Evolution Theory - please show the proofs
August 24, 2010 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: August 24, 2010 at 4:58 pm by NoGodaloud ?.)
(August 24, 2010 at 3:34 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Am I the only one frustrated at having to give these people information that is freely available via google, wikipedia and down the local library.
Can I suggest that nogodaloud go and do some reasearch, then come back and ask more directed questions of things he doesnt understand
After he's looked at the evidence for himself that will take a while because theres a hell of alot of it.
"Its better to show a child how to think than what to think" a Richard Dawkins quote
how about search another thread, if you do not want to engange in a debate, without trying to discredit the counterpart, attacking the person, instead of the ideas ?
(August 24, 2010 at 3:52 pm)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: Why is "splitting population Z into population X and Y and putting them under different selective pressures leads to speciation and eventually leads to major differences between the two species in phenotype or their physical traits" so easy for me to understand and believe? am i crazy?
ok. show me empirical evidence of species, where random selection and mutation changed their physical traits in a manner, that new functional limbs, like wings, limbs etc. arose ?
(August 24, 2010 at 4:17 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: How shall I put this...
Your question is invalid. My opinion on evolution (human speech or otherwise) did not shift because of that paper.
but you presented it as proof of evolution of human speech. Now you say this is not proof ?
In that case, do you have proof, or not ?
Quote:I've been convinced of evolution based on every paper I've ever read on evolution, the class I was taught in high school, the documentaries I've seen on television, the interviews of experts in the field, the photograpic evidence (in the case of the specific documentary I saw, some ages ago, was of a kind of moth that changed color due to the change in environment due to pollutants from a nearby power plant, but to that point, I've seen other documentaries in the meantime over a variety and wide range of evidence in support of these ideas.)
would you please stop repeating yourself ? you can say thousand times, you are convinced that is evolution is true. This is worthless, unless you can not show exactly WHAT convinced you, and WHY.
Do you understand that ? unless you stop repeating yourself, and start with showing factual evidence, our debate will be worthless. I have given you real chance to show, on what ground your position stands. So far, it seems just to be hot air....
Quote:The change was genetic and not merely a result of some chemical reaction a trait was born to pass down from generation of moth to moth.
Please show the evidence, genetics were able to generate these mutations randomly and through natural selection.
Quote:The evidence in the fossil record and the consistency of radiometric dating also contribute to this end but the evidence exists in the genetic record as well.
I want you to show it through a scientific paper, which convinced you, and which presents the evidence.
I will stop here, since otherwise i will loose my pacience with you. Handwaving will not do it. Do you understand that ?
Quote:For example, we share well over 95% of our genetic code with our closest biological cousin, the chimpanzee.
So what ? I want you to show how human speech arose. What does this have to do with the issue ?