RE: Supernatural Evidence?
October 18, 2016 at 5:27 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2016 at 5:36 pm by Asmodee.)
So, your point is....
Are you suggesting that because the Bible mentioned something which is real for a change this somehow proves that magic is real, ignore the unicorn behind the curtain? Stephen King mentions Maine a lot in his made up shit. But Maine is a real place! Should I fear sewer clowns now?
What about the firmament? The windows of Heaven? The corners of the Earth? Unicorns? Jewish slavery in Egypt? 40 years in the wilderness that never happened? Jesus saying that half the population would disappear during the time of the apostles? We just ignore everything which DOES NOT agree with you and focus on the ONE THING which does?
You are confusing "evidence" with "coincidence". As my Jehovah's Witness friend is fond of pointing out, the Bible also says something about the Earth hanging as if on nothing, proving they had a concept of how space worked! Except where they didn't, of course. This is not "evidence" that magic is real. Maybe one of the writers really did have a better understanding than was common at the time. Maybe it was common understanding that water comes from somewhere, it comes from springs on land so it must come from springs in the sea. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
As for addressing "the evidence and only the evidence", no, you do not get to dictate the conversation into the tunnel vision you would like us to have. Parts of the Bible which say things which clearly are incorrect are relevant. The idea that we must focus on ONE SINGLE THING that the Bible appears to have gotten right and nothing else is ludicrous. It's a dishonest argument approach used by people with weak positions such as yours.
So, as "evidence of the supernatural" you present a passage about springs in the sea. And these are real things. Therefore magic? What is your evidence that this knowledge is magical? Or that the writer wasn't just having a guess? What was the common belief at the time regarding springs in the sea? What evidence to you have that magic was involved? I would bet your "evidence" is "The Bible said it and it is right, therefore magic!" Um...that's not how "evidence" works. I once watched a George Carlin skit from a couple decades ago in utter awe as he mentioned one thing after another after another which hadn't yet happened at the time, but DID HAPPEN within a decade of him doing that skit. In all I counted 6 things he joked about which became a reality within 10 years of the 20 minute long skit. That's better than one correct prediction every 3 minutes. But I'll tell you, my first conclusion wasn't, "George Carlin is magic!!!!!" It was, "Wow! Now THAT is a coincidence!". I had 6 things in 20 minutes. You have 1 thing in a year's worth of reading. One of us has a much lower standard of "evidence" than the other.
Are you suggesting that because the Bible mentioned something which is real for a change this somehow proves that magic is real, ignore the unicorn behind the curtain? Stephen King mentions Maine a lot in his made up shit. But Maine is a real place! Should I fear sewer clowns now?
What about the firmament? The windows of Heaven? The corners of the Earth? Unicorns? Jewish slavery in Egypt? 40 years in the wilderness that never happened? Jesus saying that half the population would disappear during the time of the apostles? We just ignore everything which DOES NOT agree with you and focus on the ONE THING which does?
You are confusing "evidence" with "coincidence". As my Jehovah's Witness friend is fond of pointing out, the Bible also says something about the Earth hanging as if on nothing, proving they had a concept of how space worked! Except where they didn't, of course. This is not "evidence" that magic is real. Maybe one of the writers really did have a better understanding than was common at the time. Maybe it was common understanding that water comes from somewhere, it comes from springs on land so it must come from springs in the sea. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
As for addressing "the evidence and only the evidence", no, you do not get to dictate the conversation into the tunnel vision you would like us to have. Parts of the Bible which say things which clearly are incorrect are relevant. The idea that we must focus on ONE SINGLE THING that the Bible appears to have gotten right and nothing else is ludicrous. It's a dishonest argument approach used by people with weak positions such as yours.
So, as "evidence of the supernatural" you present a passage about springs in the sea. And these are real things. Therefore magic? What is your evidence that this knowledge is magical? Or that the writer wasn't just having a guess? What was the common belief at the time regarding springs in the sea? What evidence to you have that magic was involved? I would bet your "evidence" is "The Bible said it and it is right, therefore magic!" Um...that's not how "evidence" works. I once watched a George Carlin skit from a couple decades ago in utter awe as he mentioned one thing after another after another which hadn't yet happened at the time, but DID HAPPEN within a decade of him doing that skit. In all I counted 6 things he joked about which became a reality within 10 years of the 20 minute long skit. That's better than one correct prediction every 3 minutes. But I'll tell you, my first conclusion wasn't, "George Carlin is magic!!!!!" It was, "Wow! Now THAT is a coincidence!". I had 6 things in 20 minutes. You have 1 thing in a year's worth of reading. One of us has a much lower standard of "evidence" than the other.
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