RE: An invitation to debate.
December 21, 2016 at 7:50 am
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2016 at 8:22 am by GUBU.)
(December 18, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I know that this forum does not have a debate sub-forum, and so, if the moderators want to move this thread to the debate sub-forum in the philosophy area that is fine with me. I am looking to be debate any interested parties on the following question:
Quote:Did Jesus of Nazareth, after his execution, bodily and corporeally rise from the dead in such a way that his human corpse was no longer identifiable as being that of a deceased individual?
Any takers, feel free to jump in! I would ask, however, that this thread be limited to debate only and without extended commentary, especially, on other topics.
In order to debate whether he became a zombie, we have to establish whether Yeshua bar Yosef was both a real person and whether if so he lived the life depicted in the bible.
(December 21, 2016 at 6:42 am)Jehanne Wrote:(December 21, 2016 at 2:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Establishing that a qualified doctor issued a time of death for Jesus is going to be problematic. Even if they did, so what? It's just an arbitrary set of criteria they would use. No one has the authority to declare someone "impossible to come back to life".
Considering there's not even any physical evidence that he existed at all, his medical records will probably be found wanting.
Notice that even at the time of writing the bible, there was obviously some scepticism surrounding whether Jesus was actually dead following the crucifiction. This is clear because one of the soldiers suddenly stabbed him to make sure he was dead in a later rendition of the story (John I believe); a detail missing from earlier accounts.
You make a very valid point, but my presumption going into this is that the Romans knew what they were doing and that Jesus did, in fact, die physically on the cross. Of course, crucifixion was not decapitation, and so, it was not impossible that someone could survive the process.
Oh the Roman authorities knew how to do crucifixions, but the bible writers didn't. Thr type of crucifixion that is described in the bible would mean that Jesus would take days to die. To kill him in the few hours in the bible, the Romans would have had to break his legs (as they quite often did).
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