RE: Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement.
January 11, 2017 at 10:19 am
(January 10, 2017 at 6:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Let's do this -- tomorrow night I will flip a coin 100 times. Between now and then you write down the ordered sequence of heads & tails that I get. I'll do the same after each coin toss. And, then, let's compare. If our lists agree, I'll convert to any religion that you want me to! Deal?That is why you fail...
You made a promise thinking your debate was air tight and it was from your narrow minded world view... Then you are made to see that the world is not as narrowly defined as it is in your mind, and now you want to change the parameters of your promise..
Look sport you made a promise you either stick with it or you don't. Either offer God your soul or give me what's left of your integrity so I can make fun of it.
Quote:As for the so-called 500 witnesses, I don't believe that they were authentic.Hey, intellectually corrupt moron... 4th time now.. So pay attention: It's not ever meant to be about what the witnesses said happened to them. It's about witnessing God for your self...
Do you get it?
What validated the bible and the witnesses is if you follow what the bible says you will still today find God.
That is what most of you don't get. Just because you made a 1/2 assed attempt to find God in a religion and failed does not meant everyone else does.
The reason the Core of Christianity believes.. because they have literally found God where the bible said. That's what validates the bible, not witnesses, or any of the other nonsense you people want to argue.
Quote: No one, either secular or Christian, after the time of Paul ever recorded who these individuals were or what they saw and neither did they, themselves, ever identify themselves as being part of the "500 hundred".what they saw was recorded in 1 cor 15. it was the same thing everyone saw, as Jesus said his goodbyes and asended into heaven. how do we know this? because verse 5 referenced what the 12 saw. What Paul saw was different as he needed to be changed.
Quote:Paul, like the Gospels, had a trait of embellishment to him and tended to exaggerate things,example and proof please.
Quote:as was the case with many writers in the ancient World (size of armies, numbers of deaths, etc.) Of course, he was writing to a group of individuals who were 500 miles away, with the express goal of strengthening their faith in this supposed "miraculous" event, an event which the Gospels themselves fail to record.The gospels do not include volumes of things Christ did. they even say so. "that the signs and wonders could fill libraries."
What the gospels were written for was to establish the deity of Christ, His new covenant and his death burial and resurrection to establish the gospel.
Again, not meant to be a history book, but a road map. Your ignorance of how the bible is compiled and it's purpose does not give you license to re-purpose scripture for the sake of your argument.
Quote:But, even assuming that it happened, it would just be another "mass delusion" in the history of the World. Lots of those have occurred; I mentioned earlier just one category of such events, the so-called "sun miracles".lol.. Mass delusion
like Atheism??
Quote:By the way, I never mentioned the X-files and have never watched that series or movies. I do know that Fox used to place one of the X-file characters in some of its other shows, though. Just Google that; quite interesting!selective ignorance/ or deciding to remain ignorant levies judgement against you sport, not me.