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nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang?
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RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang?
(September 11, 2010 at 1:07 am)solja247 Wrote:
Quote:2) Basic bacteria *today* have complex DNA. This is not true of the bacteria in the past. Complexity increases the more organisms evolve. The first living organisms were self-replicating cells that were most likely composed of RNA (the precursor to DNA). As for how they got there, you'd have to read up on abiogenesis, but it involves the early Earth environment being in the right state for life, and a spark of energy (possibly lightning) that formed the first chemical reactions that led to self-replicating organic material.

To my understanding they have never created RNA in a lab before, or a functioning cell. I guess its hard trying to play God? Tongue

Well, unless you're referring to the completely synthesized DNA chain that is currently replicating and living happily as a completely artificial living organism. It's a new development, but yea, they made life. Creating it in natural, spontaneous conditions has thus far been out of reach. But we can create synthetic life, they can print organs out of inkjet printers, they can communicate synaptic tissue and silicon chips, we are doing a hell of a lot of God playing and the results are incredible!!!!

Ok, so Big Bang, does everyone remember their Einstein? He proved space and time are one; spacetime. What affects one affects the other. What happens in a quantum singularity is hardly understood, but we do know that time is very definitely not behaving in a fashion we recognize. It is not a traintracks, there is no "before" the big bang, a question such as thus is not framed appropriately. Quantum vacuum energy has been seen, created, and observed to literally create matter from nothing. It may sound whacky, but its true and its been confirmed. A universe such as ours compressed into a singularity has warped time as well, time is not a framework within which the universe works, it is a part of that framework. If you understand that, then you understand the flaws in asking questions about what happened before the big bang, and how something came from nothing.

I for one will not simply say I understand the beginning of the universe because God did it. I will not stop my questioning or allow a religion or faith as irrational as it is similar to the thousands of mutually exclusive faiths to insert a permanent mental black hole in my reason.
My religion is the understanding of my world. My god is the energy that underlies it all. My worship is my constant endeavor to unravel the mysteries of my religion. Thinking
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nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Skipper - September 10, 2010 at 4:55 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 10, 2010 at 5:05 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by chasm - September 10, 2010 at 5:10 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 10, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by chasm - September 10, 2010 at 5:23 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - September 10, 2010 at 5:40 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 10, 2010 at 5:52 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by darkwolf176 - September 10, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - September 10, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 10, 2010 at 5:29 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 10, 2010 at 5:41 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Skipper - September 10, 2010 at 5:41 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by darkwolf176 - September 10, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Entropist - September 10, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Minimalist - September 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Watson - September 11, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Skipper - September 11, 2010 at 2:13 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - September 10, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 8:34 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by chasm - September 10, 2010 at 5:01 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - September 11, 2010 at 1:07 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Shinylight - September 11, 2010 at 4:51 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Skipper - September 11, 2010 at 5:58 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by ABierman1986 - September 11, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by everythingafter - September 11, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by lrh9 - September 11, 2010 at 3:07 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Minimalist - September 11, 2010 at 3:30 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 11, 2010 at 4:58 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - September 11, 2010 at 9:13 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by HeyItsZeus - September 11, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by everythingafter - September 11, 2010 at 4:19 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Xyster - September 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Zen Badger - September 12, 2010 at 4:46 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 12, 2010 at 9:20 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by norbrook - September 13, 2010 at 6:08 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by AnunZi - September 13, 2010 at 7:43 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Zen Badger - September 13, 2010 at 9:42 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by KichigaiNeko - September 13, 2010 at 9:57 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Entropist - September 13, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by LastPoet - September 13, 2010 at 7:59 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Watson - September 13, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Skipper - September 13, 2010 at 12:13 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Watson - September 13, 2010 at 5:18 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Minimalist - September 13, 2010 at 5:50 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 8, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - October 8, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 8, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - October 8, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by fr0d0 - October 8, 2010 at 9:34 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 8, 2010 at 10:14 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - October 8, 2010 at 10:37 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 10, 2010 at 9:00 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by downbeatplumb - October 10, 2010 at 9:15 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 10, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by LastPoet - October 10, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Anomalocaris - October 10, 2010 at 10:55 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by downbeatplumb - October 11, 2010 at 1:22 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 11, 2010 at 4:19 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by little_monkey - October 11, 2010 at 8:42 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by little_monkey - October 11, 2010 at 9:44 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Anomalocaris - October 11, 2010 at 10:52 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by little_monkey - October 11, 2010 at 11:40 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Darwinian - October 11, 2010 at 4:48 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2010 at 5:26 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by gmjackson - October 11, 2010 at 11:35 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by solja247 - October 12, 2010 at 7:24 am
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by downbeatplumb - October 12, 2010 at 1:16 pm
RE: nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang? - by Tiberius - October 12, 2010 at 6:19 pm

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