nothing, nothing, nothing...big bang?

[little_monkey]

So I disagree; speculation is very powerful. It stops us from becoming so arrogant we make stupid statements without any proof whatsoever. What if we find a moon made of cheese? Well then we've found some new and interesting in the universe. What if we find that matter / energy can be created? Then we've advanced science further than we thought possible. What if some things can have a beginning without a cause? Then your argument is flawed. Speculation is a good thing.

Speculation is just that. In the 1950s people speculated what the future would be like. Speculation can be wrong. Speculation is not empically evidence based. I can speculate that Jesus is going to come back, it doesnt mean that He is going too, I just speculate that
He will come...
I love how science proves our assumptions wrong, but untill it does, the assumption that everything in the universe has a cause is a present fact, just like the law of gravity, untill it is proven cotrary it is a law...

So I presume that you want to ask, what is the first cause? But that question makes no sense, since one can ask, what was the cause of the first cause? And then, what is the cause of the cause of the first cause? Etc. Like one said, it's turtles all the way.