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Poll: How you work that out?
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My religion represent God
3.70%
1 3.70%
I take from what religions say
0%
0 0%
No religion represent God
25.93%
7 25.93%
I wouldn't know
11.11%
3 11.11%
I am not interested
18.52%
5 18.52%
I have no other way to know so I just write what religions say
0%
0 0%
Nah.
40.74%
11 40.74%
Total 27 vote(s) 100%
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Do religions represent God?
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RE: Do religions represent God?
(January 10, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(January 9, 2017 at 5:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) I don't?
Wrong again yog in fact I do know very well indeed.
When you try to think about something or to find a solution to your problems you look within not at the stars.
It is within where the knowledge lie.

Outside there is mainly a lot of illusion.
Any researcher when he-she try to discover something look within and even if he look outside that knowledge still come from someone who previously look within.
You can not go wrong with that.
The routine is the same.
The knowledge only come from within that is why spirituality is a search within unlike religions which search outside.
Religions worship idols, effigy, statues and pray God for the daily bread.
In spirituality all this is totally off.
Once you understand that the real knowledge is within there is no point in wasting the time in external exercises that not only lead nowhere but are also ruining the already acquired knowledge.  Lightbulb
Putting religions and spirituality on the same level is unfounded.
(January 10, 2017 at 6:37 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you reckon that I do not know then show evidence that the knowledge is external.  Wink

Nice job equivocating and changing the subject.  The question had nothing to do with any "externality" or not of "knowledge."  The question was whether or not you "know" that your approach to ultimate truth ("practice") is right and that the approach of those in religion is wrong.  And as usual you have no answer other than just to assert your beliefs and try to change the subject.  You may "believe" that your approach is the right approach, but you don't know it.  Everybody believes that their way is the right way.  But knowledge, true knowing, is amenable to demonstration.  If you can't show it, then you don't know it.  And there's no way for you to demonstrate that you have the right approach to ultimate truth, even above your distortions about what "religion" entails.

No, you practice "intuitional science," remember?  Intuition yields belief, not knowledge.  Only reason can deliver knowledge because the reasons for its conclusions can be shared.  The conclusions and support for them from reason are transparent in a way that the reasons "behind" intuitional truths is not.  If you can't show it, then you don't know it.  And you can't show it.  A bunch of stories and analogies aren't reasons.  That's why you talk about the fruits of your yoga practice in terms of metaphors such as 'gold' and the underneath of an iceberg.  You don't have reasons for your conclusions from meditation, you just have "belief" and some warm fuzzies from the experience.  You don't "know" jack shit as a result of your meditation.


Wrong once again yog.  Banging Head On Desk

The reason why I talk about internal or external knowledge is very very simple and it clearly show
how right I am and how wrong you are.
During this present life we may build up an empire but when our body goes to the dogs we have only our consciousness left.
All those external physical-material things are left behind so the only progress that we are left with lie in our consciousness and the consciousness can not possibly be build physically or materially by external effort but through an internal effort.
From here is easy to understand that by acting within we can build up progress.
Religions on the other hand act externally.
As I already said the worship of idols, statues and asking God for the daily bread are externally exercises
That is why they can not possibly lead to any sort of progress.
The difference between religions and spirituality is very clear and every idiot would understand which one lead to progress and which one does not.
I challenge you to bring evidence on the contrary but of course you fail to do so.

Now let us come to the second point which is how to demonstrate that the internal system works.
Can you demonstrate that you are in love with somebody and that feeling of love is real?
Humm, not easy yog.
How can you transfer that nice feeling to me?
That belong to you and nobody else.
The same thing goes for spiritual love.
You struggle to achieve that feeling and that feeling belong to you and none else.
That make sense.
Why should you share that with somebody else and lose that power so hard achieved?
Even if you would you could not do that.
How can you extrapolate love feeling from within and give to somebody else even for a demonstration?


Sorry yog you fail once again.  Smile

(January 10, 2017 at 2:31 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(January 10, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No, you practice "intuitional science," remember?  Intuition yields belief, not knowledge.  Only reason can deliver knowledge because the reasons for its conclusions can be shared.  The conclusions and support for them from reason are transparent in a way that the reasons "behind" intuitional truths is not.  If you can't show it, then you don't know it.  And you can't show it.  


I'm just going to go ahead and award the best beat down of 2017 to Jormungy!  Golden, absolutely golden.

@Rik, what she says here is true of course, but it doesn't mean you cannot be absolutely certain.  Even the most delusional persona can be certain.  You've taught me that.


You should know what happen when you sing a song of victory before the fight is ended?
In case the party that you back up lose the disaster is double.

You never thought of that Whatever, did you?  Bird

(January 11, 2017 at 7:39 am)Tonus Wrote: My internal knowledge tells me that Rik is a fucking loon.  Must be true!


Well, if Giacomino the elf is your internal knowledge then it must be true. (of course)  Indubitably
How can I argue with that?  Lightbulb
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Messages In This Thread
Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by FatAndFaithless - January 6, 2017 at 10:06 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 8, 2017 at 9:19 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 8, 2017 at 4:46 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Rhondazvous - January 14, 2017 at 7:09 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 15, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Mr Greene - January 6, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by FatAndFaithless - January 6, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by FatAndFaithless - January 6, 2017 at 10:37 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 10:45 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by FatAndFaithless - January 6, 2017 at 10:46 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Crunchy - January 8, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 6, 2017 at 10:39 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 10:52 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by FatAndFaithless - January 6, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 6, 2017 at 11:23 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - January 6, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 10:30 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 6, 2017 at 3:04 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Minimalist - January 6, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Edwardo Piet - January 6, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - January 6, 2017 at 7:50 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 7, 2017 at 7:32 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by brewer - January 6, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Alex K - January 6, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Qwertyportne - January 6, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by pocaracas - January 6, 2017 at 6:57 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 6, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - January 6, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 8:06 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 6, 2017 at 9:35 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by robvalue - January 7, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 7, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 7, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 9:14 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 8, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 10:15 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 8, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 9, 2017 at 5:09 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 9, 2017 at 7:24 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 10, 2017 at 6:37 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 10, 2017 at 6:42 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 10, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - January 10, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 9:03 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 11, 2017 at 2:46 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 11, 2017 at 3:37 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 12, 2017 at 4:12 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 12, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 13, 2017 at 7:09 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Aoi Magi - January 13, 2017 at 8:29 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 13, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 14, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 9, 2017 at 1:13 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Edwardo Piet - January 8, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by ignoramus - January 8, 2017 at 7:50 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 8, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 8, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 8, 2017 at 11:51 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 8, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Minimalist - January 8, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 8, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 8, 2017 at 4:45 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Opoponax - January 8, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 8, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Minimalist - January 8, 2017 at 4:45 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 8, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by ApeNotKillApe - January 8, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by ignoramus - January 9, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by ApeNotKillApe - January 9, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by vorlon13 - January 8, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 9, 2017 at 7:33 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 9, 2017 at 7:54 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 9, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 9, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Qwertyportne - January 9, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Astonished - January 10, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Asmodee - January 10, 2017 at 2:25 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 11, 2017 at 7:39 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by ApeNotKillApe - January 11, 2017 at 2:47 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - January 11, 2017 at 2:48 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Aoi Magi - January 12, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by chimp3 - January 12, 2017 at 7:01 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 12, 2017 at 7:48 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 12, 2017 at 7:46 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Aoi Magi - January 13, 2017 at 11:36 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 14, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 15, 2017 at 7:05 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 15, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 16, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 16, 2017 at 8:31 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 17, 2017 at 7:51 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 23, 2017 at 4:50 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 23, 2017 at 5:49 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 25, 2017 at 2:17 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - January 16, 2017 at 12:16 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by The Grand Nudger - January 14, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Cyberman - January 14, 2017 at 6:44 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by dyresand - January 16, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 17, 2017 at 6:39 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by pocaracas - January 17, 2017 at 7:08 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 17, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 19, 2017 at 7:51 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 19, 2017 at 8:41 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 20, 2017 at 12:46 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 21, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 22, 2017 at 11:19 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 23, 2017 at 9:12 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 24, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 24, 2017 at 6:46 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 25, 2017 at 7:25 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 25, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 27, 2017 at 9:00 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 28, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by MTL - January 30, 2017 at 8:49 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - January 31, 2017 at 7:06 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Angrboda - January 31, 2017 at 2:37 pm
RE: Do religions represent God? - by MTL - February 1, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - February 1, 2017 at 6:43 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by MTL - February 1, 2017 at 9:12 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Whateverist - February 1, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - February 2, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by MTL - February 3, 2017 at 9:17 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - February 3, 2017 at 9:38 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by MTL - February 3, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Little Rik - February 3, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Tonus - January 30, 2017 at 11:08 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by AceBoogie - January 17, 2017 at 8:31 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by Foxaèr - January 28, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by MTL - January 28, 2017 at 3:12 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by robvalue - February 1, 2017 at 4:15 am
RE: Do religions represent God? - by dyresand - February 2, 2017 at 3:15 pm

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