(January 30, 2017 at 8:49 am)MTL Wrote:(January 28, 2017 at 9:21 am)Little Rik Wrote:
Mate.
In your long post you deal with several issues.
If I would have to answer all of this in detail it would take me the time that I just don't have so I just answer the main point.
It is very important to know how religions started and why they do start in the first place.
Jesus, Shiva, Krishna, Buddha never intended to start religions.
In fact they were against religions and their dogmas.
They started spirituality not religions.
After their departure some followers change the rules and turn spirituality into religions with their invented dogmas about paradise if you follow them or hell if you don't but the issue goes a lot further than that and today spirituality is confined to few smart people who didn't fall in the trap.
*blink*
Jesus claimed to be the Son of God.
He told people what to do (worship Him) to get into Heaven.
He told them what was right and what was wrong (concept of "sin")
He rebuked them for their lack of faith.
He instructed His followers to go out into the world and tell others what He told them.
If that isn't starting a religion, then I don't know what is.
I am willing to allow for the possibility that there is a god.
I adamantly refuse to attach any degree of value to any earthly religion.
Anyone claiming to be the Son of God, or a Prophet, is suspect.
Jesus might have been a demon.
(But he was more likely to have either been a con-artist or crackpot....or fictional, altogether).
Being a "spiritual" person doesn't mean believing in fairytales.
I consider myself a spiritual person, but that doesn't mean pulling the wool over my own eyes.
I can allow for the possibility of God's existence, without placing any parameters onto that possibility, whatsoever.
I can accept whatever might be the reality....like, maybe God exists, and IS eternal...but we are not.
My "spirituality" does not hang on GETTING anything out of it, such as eternal life.
As I already said to other people in here if you want to know the real life of Jesus you should really read
the aquarium Gospel of Levi.
As far as Jesus being the son of God why not.
After all we all are the sons and daughters of God.
Religions twist Jesus words by saying that he is the only son of God that is why it is important not to fail in the religious trap and listen to all their invented stories.
