RE: Islam; my faith; and other faiths
April 20, 2017 at 8:03 pm
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2017 at 8:06 pm by WinterHold.)
(April 20, 2017 at 7:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote:AtlasS33[...OP... Wrote:pid='1543550' dateline='1492723919']
You like Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists are still all in the same boat.
The only thing I agree with is currently in today's global climate the East has the most problems because of religion, right now. Too much of it has not caught up with modern western pluralism, even Turkey looks to be having somewhat of a backslide into a more authoritarian view.
But WW2 German's Christians were brutal, and the Soviet Union Russian Orthodox Christians helped put Stalin in power.
You cant force any religion out of existence no, but religion itself is a horrible way of conducting political diplomacy. That is why Sunnis and Shiites fight. But to a lesser degree in America, it is why we also have political divisions between liberal Christians and conservative Christians. It is also why a Tibet Buddhist will not agree with a Chinese Buddhist.
And it is especially why Christians and Muslims cant get along, and why Jews and Muslims cant get along. There simply is no good way for 7 billion humans to filter politics through competing religions, nationally, regional or global politics. The west simply does a better job of keeping religion on a leash.
Secularism acted as the painkiller for all the problems; a Sunni and a Shiite would unite if they forgot their faiths for a bit; but the problem would arise again consciously or subconsciously because it's a heritage deep inside.
You can't force religion; but you can change the way humans think, only if they were ready to change. The concept of leaving people to decide by themselves is more than important, but would they leave you alone?
Now, we have Jihadists who believe in global agendas to blow the world out of its beliefs, businessmen want to milk the poor out of money to be richer, but always you have a smarter, manipulative folk that would use simple-minded people to fight in proxies for his/her sake.
Everything is connected in a way that builds up until it reaches the economy of the whole world.
I think that Muslims with the Quran can break this cycle. But they end up butchering each other. And blame Christians and Jews.
(April 20, 2017 at 7:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:To validate if it's right or not, an invite to read the Quran was officially offered:
I have read the Q'ran (in English, I'm afraid - I neither speak nor read Arabic). I found it wordy and poorly thought out.
Boru
In Arabic it's quite obvious. I'm a native speaker; I only read it in English to reply to people here.
Translations must be more accurate, and more precise. I admit.