RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
June 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2017 at 9:00 pm by Little Henry.)
(June 25, 2017 at 8:27 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 8:24 pm)Little Henry Wrote: Empathy does not make a moral act right or wrong.
It may make it desirable, preferable, but not right or wrong.
And how exactly are you so sure of that? What means have you used to determine that you have the correct objective morality? Don't tell me you accepted it on faith?
How does a feeling or desire make something right or wrong?
(June 25, 2017 at 8:31 pm)Astonished Wrote: Well, if we define morality as the consequences of actions in terms of harm to living beings, then he's just flat wrong. But if we define it as what makes a vindictive sky fairy want to drown us or burn us, he's right.
So it is a fact that harming living beings is wrong?
(June 25, 2017 at 8:48 pm)Astonished Wrote: Dude...if killing is objectively wrong, meaning always and in all cases across time regardless of who commits the act...and the person espousing this objective morality believes it comes from a deity that does exactly that thing so many times in so many ways...then doesn't that one singular example of that failure to be objective (BY DEFINITION) negate the entire idea of objective morality altogether? I really don't see how you can rationalize that. Otherwise it just becomes a 'do as I say, not as I do' appeal to authority and that's a recipe for immorality, not least because of how things being commanded need to be interpreted.
I am not arguing for moral absolutes. Rather objective morality. Big difference.
IN terms of Christianity, if Christianity is true, God does not murder, he simply removes people from this temporal existence to another location.
God as the author of life has the right to redeem life as he sees fit. He has no obligation to you or anyone to prolong ones existence in this world.
