RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
June 26, 2017 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2017 at 3:54 pm by Mister Agenda.)
Little Henry Wrote:[quote=Mister Agenda]
Because we can't have the subjective opinion that it's important to condemn such acts?
It essentially means nothing. If OM does not exist, then you are just expressing your preference, just like 1 person expresses their preference for blondes over brunette or NFL over golf. You are not making a statement with an intent for it to be a fact are you? So who really cares.Or are you?
If you don't care what I'll do to you if I catch you at it, that's imprudent. Do you think being raped (or shot for raping someone) is essentially nothing? That sounds like a mere assertion that doesn't stand up to casual scrutiny.
Little Henry Wrote:[quote=Mister Agenda]
I subjectively feel more strongly about murder preferences than food preferences.
Who cares. If OM does not exist, then who cares if you like pizza or burgers or the other way around. Thats all it really means.
I care. By definition. And enough people agree with me to make your life very problematic if you go around raping people, so you should care too, if you care about your freedom and survival.
Little Henry Wrote:[quote=Mister Agenda]
Yes, my subjective morality obligates me to do so.
But if OM does not exist, it cannot be wrong. Just undesirable.
The point of that distinction being what? There are good reasons not to allow rape, but if you don't agree with those reasons, that just illustrates the subjective nature of morality. Just calling it objective doesn't fix that. And there's the question of how do you prove your version of OM is the 'right' one? And if it were 'properly basic' we could have universal agreement on the basics instead of weak general agreement. Let's face it, if we're having a moral argument and you go with 'I'm right because my moral beliefs are properly basic', it's just a wordy way of saying 'I can't back up what I'm saying'.
Little Henry Wrote:[quote=Mister Agenda]
Yeah, the difference between those two things, that seems to be a tough one for Christians unless they have a God commanding them not to do it...which he doesn't, btw.
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I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.