RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
June 26, 2017 at 11:48 pm
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2017 at 11:50 pm by Astonished.)
(June 26, 2017 at 11:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I gave you a definition of a secular objective morality. More than a definition, I gave you a primer. We couldn;t agree on definitions because you kept insisting on definitions that would be amenable to our religious moral absolutists, because philosophers...who have for centuries been religious moral absolutists, insisted on that use of the term. Insisted on those standards. They never made sense...but obviously that didn't stop you from parroting them here, in a discussion with me, about secular moral objectivity - you're a product of your culture.
Your entire objection is the objection of a religious nitwit. The same objection levied at every secular morality by every religious nitwit.
"That's like, your opinion, man. "
Are you so stubborn, and so desperate to believe that you have completely rid yourself of what took centuries of religious indoctrination over successive generations to accomplish at a cultural level...that you won't entertain the notion?
You gave me YOUR definition. I rejected it because of a fundamental conflict I pointed out that you failed to resolve (you're welcome to keep trying but if you want to keep spewing the same shit, we're in no better a position than that of a theist and skeptic). I went elsewhere to see if I could resolve this via someone who does this for a living and, I was unpleasantly surprised to find out, nope, no solutions out there. If you can find one, please, I invite you, cite and post, and I'll give it due consideration. I no longer trust your capability to do this on your own so forgive the eye-rolling if you want to keep jabbering on. Ironic how you used the Dude (shittiest movie ever, BTW, you have SUCH great taste, big surprise) to illustrate what you're incapable of understanding.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.