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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(June 29, 2017 at 6:29 pm)Little Henry Wrote:
(June 29, 2017 at 11:11 am)Khemikal Wrote: What's the problem?  OFC morality is a survival strategy.  Does that make child rape any less immoral?  Does child rape being objectively harmful make morality any less of an "illusion"?


Thats my point. if that is all what morality is, acts like rape and murder are neither right or wrong.

(June 29, 2017 at 11:18 am)Astreja Wrote: I admit no such thing.  Stop pretending to read our minds.

Until otherwise demonstrated, all morality is subjective -- including morality that allegedly comes from a god.

The god of the Bible is a particularly egregious and ugly example of this.  It sets up the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" but violates it regularly, with wild abandon.  If there is an objective standard upon which the commandment is based, Yahweh is in clear violation of it and accordingly can be ignored as an authority on morality.

Subjective morality is simple:  If you don't want it to happen to you, don't do it to someone else.
God does not kill.

As the author of life he has the right to remove anyone from this temporal existence to another existence as he sees fit.

So unless you got your god concept from anything other than any of the old or new testament, you are flat-out lying. And if you're arguing for a god that does not kill, or has any other attributes other than the tired 'well everything needs a designer except our designer', I'd love to know what you're basing that on.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by Astonished - June 29, 2017 at 7:17 pm

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