(July 5, 2017 at 7:51 pm)Astonished Wrote:(July 5, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: They believed that the history of civilization always goes in a certain pattern. And that communism was a process of that pattern. Using wacky pseudohistory . And that they were carrying out said pattern.
So...like, we have no control over ourselves and actions because we'll inevitably repeat our failures no matter how successful we become and return to a standard minimum before starting the cycle over again? Well so much for personal accountability or the idea of free will. Morality becomes completely arbitrary then because it doesn't matter what form it takes, we can perform directly opposite actions but somehow the effect will still result in the same outcome. Fucking psychotic. Impressive how they could believe that without basing it around a deity.
Please note this was not Marx's original idea . Nor did he try and claim it as an ontology. And this was rejected by more libertarian communist . My point is those communist who did believe in it argued it was objective and treated it as such .
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