(July 12, 2017 at 4:32 pm)SteveII Wrote:(July 12, 2017 at 3:15 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: This has gotten a bit long and complicated, so I'd like to ask for some clarification. SteveII, are you saying that god is an objective moral standard? If so, do you mean that everything he does is good and everything he doesn't do is not good? Or is it everything he says to do is good and everything he says not to do is bad. Basically, how do we know what is good and what is bad in your opinion? I'd like to join in the discussion but I'm getting a little lost in the long posts lol!
For ease of reference, I will number my points:
1. God's moral nature (characteristics) is an objective moral standard because it always existed, is unchanging, and each attribute is perfect. In other words, there could be no loving nature greater than God's, no merciful nature greater than God's, no greater justice than God's, etc.
2. God cannot make decisions or command anything contrary to his nature, so all of God's decisions and commands are moral.
3. God's commands are the source of our moral values and duties (two different things).
Notice the moral hierarchy: God's Nature --> God's Commands --> Our values and duties. This is an important distinction that most people are just skipping over.
In other posts you've explicitly said that objective morality preceded your god and that your god can't make objective morals. So from where do these supposedly objective morals come from? If there is something god can't do or doesn't know how to do, then it isn't omnipotent or omniscient. This means that gods abilities are limited. It also means that if objective morality existed before and/or independent of your god, then it would even be suspect as to whether or not your god is eternal. As it suggests that something else existed prior to your god.