(July 13, 2017 at 12:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(July 13, 2017 at 11:35 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Lol, not sure how good of an argument you'll have with me when I barely understand all thisFor instance, I'm still a bit fuzzy on: Is there an objective moral standard? Does objective morality even need one? If it does and there is, what is that standard?
Better a question that I ask you then tell you. Is there something that makes some thing x, bad? Let's take an example of something that you think is bad. Is it bad, because it is your opinion that it is bad? Obviously, you hold the opinion, but does your holding that opinion make that thing bad. Could it be "not bad"..or even good, if you..personally held a different opinion, or changed that opinion? Is it something about -you- that makes thing x bad, or is it something about that thing x? If the latter, can that be objectively verified? If you say to me "X is bad because such and such"....will I be able to look at such and such, free of your bias by simple virtue of not being you, and say - "okay, I see what you said would be there"?
Does objective morality need an objective moral standard? By definition, yes. Do you? Probably not. If you thought that something was wrong without any expllanation for why, and it happened to be the thing that some other objective standard also considered wrong..the practical difference is nil.
What do you think that standard is, what makes something bad, and why? What are we talking about when we talk about morality? What are we referring to when we determine that something is good or bad?
Well, for me personally if something does harm to another person then it is wrong. But is that because an objective standard says so, or is it just my feelings? What about a sociopath? Their morality can be very different because they don't feel empathy, right? And even without being a sociopath, a person can believe that hurting a person isn't necessarily bad. Maybe they think they are above that person and therefore have the right to hurt them. Or they believe everyone must fend for themselves and if you are too weak to keep others from hurting you then that's your problem. What says I am right and they are wrong? I'm not saying that a moral standard has to be a god; it could be a natural force, a mathematical equation, or anything really. But I feel like there has to be something to make objective morality work. Otherwise, how can we know which person is right?
And just a random thought here, do animals factor into this at all? Or are we just focusing on humans?
