(July 16, 2017 at 1:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(July 16, 2017 at 12:33 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: It's ok,..as long as no harm is done or intended right? We could also return to harm, that is not immoral if you like. If you want to discuss, I would suggest that you cut out the sophism, and try reasoning through it. You don't get to immoral through harm alone (it may not even be present). Correlation does not imply causation, or mean that it is the basis.
Please lecture everyone here on morality, when your old book of mythology has God taking it out on KIDS over a beef he has with an adult king. Please lecture us on morality when God allows mass genocide in a flood which would mean that innocent men and women and KIDS would have drowned. I am glad those fictitious stories are not true, but is is sad that in this day and age people believe them, and far worse find them to be moral.
If that is the best an allegedly "all powerful" "all loving" God can do being perfect, sorry, he sucks at his job. I think the better option as to why people wrote that crap was because it reflected the very tribal times they lived in where loyalty to the rulers was much more of a demand.
I keep being accused of misunderstanding. So I want to make sure I address you properly. Are you trying to change the subject, or is this a poisoning the well attempt? I believe that you hold to a subjective ontology of morality, so are you judging on the correct basis, or do you think that you are the basis?
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther