(July 16, 2017 at 3:13 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(July 16, 2017 at 1:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Please lecture everyone here on morality, when your old book of mythology has God taking it out on KIDS over a beef he has with an adult king. Please lecture us on morality when God allows mass genocide in a flood which would mean that innocent men and women and KIDS would have drowned. I am glad those fictitious stories are not true, but is is sad that in this day and age people believe them, and far worse find them to be moral.
If that is the best an allegedly "all powerful" "all loving" God can do being perfect, sorry, he sucks at his job. I think the better option as to why people wrote that crap was because it reflected the very tribal times they lived in where loyalty to the rulers was much more of a demand.
I keep being accused of misunderstanding. So I want to make sure I address you properly. Are you trying to change the subject, or is this a poisoning the well attempt? I believe that you hold to a subjective ontology of morality, so are you judging on the correct basis, or do you think that you are the basis?
Good question. Who knows the correct basis for assessing morality. I am saying it can only be the self and an understanding of empathy. I absolutely admit that doesn't address the problem of hard solipsism, but I don't know where that gets anybody.
I am sick and tired of morality as abstracts and I ain't no philosopher. Practical morality seems obviously secular, even to a well versed theist. Unless you subscribe to a divine command theory, because there are many biblically mandated things that are immoral to me. The it's just a game of he said, she said.
Name me a moral judgement that a theist could make that an un-beiliver couldn't?
I dare you.
