RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
July 16, 2017 at 10:24 pm
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2017 at 10:27 pm by Brian37.)
(July 16, 2017 at 10:21 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(July 16, 2017 at 10:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No sorry, you do not get to confuse observation as being paranoia. If you want paranoid just look at the head character of your holy book. God cant stand competition, cant stand criticism and at the end of the book, threatens you with revenge for not kissing his ass. THAT is paranoia.
Observing a bait and switch is an observation. Just like one knows the street corner Vegas ball and cup or 3 card Monty is a trick. See it enough over countless observations you see a pattern.
Now to be fair EVERY religion does this. Humans evolutionary wise are tribal and mostly get sold the religions of their parents before they can develop critical thinking skills. Humans have a tendency to protect that which is local and that which they are familiar with.
Now if you have a belief then defend it, but don't pretend you are not saying one thing in one thread and then something entirely different in another thread. You do, so just admit it.
Hardly paranoid. You got sold a mental ball and cup, and now you are simply either trying to convince yourself, which is not a neutral objective attitude, or you do want to convince others but don't want to admit it. It could be one or the other or a combo of both, but at a minimum it is at least one of those.
See here is what I can do that you cant do or lie to yourself and claim you are not doing. I DO want to convince you that GOD/gods/deities or the super natural in general are not true. I am not afraid of my position. I don't have to say one thing in one thread and something else in another to pretend like I don't care.
I do care about facts And the fact is our behaviors as a species do not come from any holy book, not yours not any. Sure, humans think they do. But if a label magically made humans only do good, surely we should at a minimum see a nation with no prisons, but the fact is, every nation has prisons.
Why are you here then? If you are not here to argue for the existence of the god you believe to be real, what is the point? It can only be that you are trying to convince yourself in that context.
Well, with that attitude, there is nothing I can say, to convince you that it is all in your head. I can't reason with a closed mind and your wrong assumptions. But if you decide to contribute to a conversation (in context), instead of just trolling; I'm happy to discuss, and give my reasons for what I believe and why (on a number of topics. I'll also consider your position (if you decide) to switch it up, and actually discuss.
Just the opposite, your God is all in your head. And please spare me the "closed minded" garbage, I am not the one clinging to an old book. My current position is based on modern knowledge not old mythology.
Now, if you really insist on claiming it is "all in my head", then from now on to be logically consistent, do not argue for the existence of your God again in any post nor create another new thread doing that. You wont do that so no, it is not all in my head.