(July 18, 2017 at 5:29 pm)JackRussell Wrote:(July 18, 2017 at 8:37 am)SteveII Wrote: 1. What do you want me to explain? A defect somewhere in the brain?
2. Sorry to hear that. However, isn't that something that isn't working quite right in the brain?
3. You would have to believe in objective morality to even make that statement. So, what is the explanatory ultimate of objective morality?
4. Almost certainly. I don't know to what you think I think you think.
1: Why has God given me a defect in my brain?
2: There are evolutionary/genetic and behavioural studies on this, trust me I have read LOADS on this.
3: Brain states and evolution baby. It ain't objective, it's all about wellbeing, and cantankerous primates can disagree, we aren't all alpha-males and I don't feel the need to be right. I just want to be nice and have never seen the evidence for the supernatural, that's your bag.
4: Come to England and drink a warm beer, that might piss you off. But I am a remainer and would offer you a French lager.
But seriously, why could morality not come from human experience? Do you not think we knew that murder was wrong before Sinai? And even if you are right, how does that make your claim different from any other posited god?
I prefer Occam and evidence. Parsimony and libations.
1. I don't believe God was the cause of the defect.
2. Evolutionary?
3. Read the NT. Talk to someone who was changed. Talk to a missionary who ministered in some remote place where God's work is more apparent and needed.
4. Was in England last month. 25th wedding anniversary trip. Portsmouth, Oxford, Harrogate, Lake District.
I believe that morality is written on the heart of every (normal) human.
Occam was a monk, philosopher and theologian. His razor principle is one applied to scientific inquiry. Investigating God is not scientific in the slightest.
The fact that there are other religions have no bearing on the question of truth. There are many ways in which Christianity is better evidenced and reasoned than other religions.
