(July 27, 2017 at 12:01 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(July 26, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Why would you ask me such a question? If this person is a Christian he is being deceitful in his attempt to convenience atheists to consider Christianity. Being deceitful goes against what the scriptures teach us about how to witness. If this person believes he is right in what he says he isn't a Christian, you'll have to decide what he is. For me either way he is a hoax.
GC
Yes, you're right; he was a hoax. It was shown that this particular poster is a fraud who merely copied an online apologist stratagem either with the hope of fooling the godless or else on a lark. So your disdain for him has been shown to be warranted.
I was reacting to the idea of there being a particular way a Christian -as such- must conduct themselves. I would hope that xtians, like everyone else, are able to go through stages where they might act in ways they later regret. Sometimes we must go through phases in order to check off some roads as "not for me". Perhaps I read the part where you said "no way to act" as focused too exclusively on conduct over being?:
Quote:Actually if he were to be a Christian I just might get a bit upset with him for such a poor expression of what the Bible says. That is definitely no way for a Christian to act.
Naturally you're free to do as you like but I think sometimes you guys hold yourselves to too high a standard. Conducting oneself in prescribed ways in order to attain a reward in another place and time just seems so dehumanizing to me. It makes me sad to think of you doing as you think god has told you in order to curry His favor. Surely there are better ways to be Christians?
I did not act/react in a way to gain favor with God, that would constitute works = salvation and the Bible doesn't teach that. My standard is Jesus Christ and I fail daily ti live to that standard, so I do have a high standard to try and meet. I said what I did because I did not want the unbelievers here to think that was the way a Christian would witness. The failings in what he said were so many and not even close to the truth the Bible teaches. I just wasn't going to let someone come here and try to misrepresent the Christian faith in such a horrible way, so I spoke up. To witness for Christ is to give an account for what I believe and that was partly what I was doing.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.