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I lost my Soul
RE: I lost my Soul
Godscreated Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:Believe me, if he's torturing me, I'll be ready to believe whatever he wants and accept whoever he wants me to in a matter of seconds. I know what being burned feels like.

But I won't do it just because members of a locally popular religious sect have stories to tell.

If I was going to follow a theistic religion, why would I pick one whose deity acts like a Mafia Don?

 If you are speaking about doing so after death that will be to late, God didn't offer us salvation just to keep us out of hell. He's whole reason was to reunite us with Him and live the eternal life He desires for us, beginning here and lasting through eternity.
Your opinion of God is your's and a wrong one I might add, I should know I live in that relationship I keep telling you about.

GC

Too bad God never gives you tips on how to post in a way that a reasonable person would find convincing or appealing. If this is you with God on your side, you must be epically pathetic without him.

Of course it's too late after I'm dead, that's how the scam works: I have to believe you about what will happen to me after I die or I'll be sorry. Once I believe you, you can use that fear to manipulate me. But only an idiot would even bring that up before the person they're talking to believes in the consequence that you're threatening. You convince people of hell AFTER you convince them your religion is true, else they have no reason to believe you and it comes off as a laughably impotent threat. There's certainly no indication that Jesus tried to tell nonbelievers that they were going to hell if they didn't follow him. He had good advice on winning converts, it would be so refreshing to encounter a Christian who used his methods. And God allowing me to reevaluate my position after I KNOW he's real would just be too fair and just to be believable as the tyrant described in the Bible. I know that given the choice of God being just or sticking to the Bible, you'll stick with the Bible. After all, how could an edited, translated book millennia old with no original copies surviving that's the product of an iron age oral tradition possibly get anything wrong?

If all God wants is for us to unite with him, there shouldn't even be a hell. But he doesn't want us to just unite with him. He wants anyone who doesn't get on board to suffer in agonizing torment forever and ever. And the method he has chosen to get us on the path to uniting with him is to send us you and people like you. And not only do you not have evidence, logic, or reason on your side; you're not even someone who gives the slightest impression that they have been touched by an even slightly higher being, let alone the creator and omniscient sustainer of the universe.

Godscreated Wrote:
Brian37 Wrote:You are sure that the sun and moon are separate sources of light despite science saying that the photons of the sun bounce off the moon?

God wasn't trying to give a science lesson and the people of the time wouldn't have understood. He did give men brains so that later when we came to understand what was actually happening that we would have understood what and why He stated it in the manner He did. Can't you see that?

It's so simple that I can explain it to a four year old child, but the omnipotent creator of the universe found it to hard to explain to adults? The sun is the source of light and the moon reflects light from the sun. What's so hard about that? Why on earth would an iron age peasant not be able to understand that? Why would they even have trouble accepting it as a tenet of their religion even if they didn't understand it?

Pro-tip: an omnipotent being can make you understand whatever it wants you to understand. Please keep that in mind going forward.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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I lost my Soul - by GoneGuy - July 25, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Jesster - July 25, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by GoneGuy - July 25, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 25, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Foxaèr - July 25, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Chad32 - July 25, 2017 at 3:08 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 25, 2017 at 3:18 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 25, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 25, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 25, 2017 at 7:20 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 25, 2017 at 9:20 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 25, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 25, 2017 at 9:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - July 26, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 12:58 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 9:37 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 26, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by brewer - July 25, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 25, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 25, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 25, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 25, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 25, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by chimp3 - July 25, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 25, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 25, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 25, 2017 at 11:36 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 25, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 25, 2017 at 7:15 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 25, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Joods - July 25, 2017 at 8:05 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 26, 2017 at 5:42 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Joods - July 26, 2017 at 7:45 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 7:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ben Davis - July 25, 2017 at 8:18 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by brewer - July 25, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 25, 2017 at 9:24 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 6:24 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 26, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 26, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 26, 2017 at 2:26 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 26, 2017 at 7:54 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 8:15 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 26, 2017 at 11:55 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Succubus - July 27, 2017 at 12:40 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 27, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:31 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 26, 2017 at 7:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 26, 2017 at 1:41 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by LastPoet - July 26, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 2:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 26, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by WinterHold - July 27, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by brewer - July 26, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 26, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 26, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 26, 2017 at 6:04 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Minimalist - July 26, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mystical - July 26, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 26, 2017 at 6:29 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 6:49 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 26, 2017 at 7:47 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 26, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 26, 2017 at 8:27 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by chimp3 - July 26, 2017 at 8:29 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 8:30 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 26, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 26, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 11:00 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 11:09 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Succubus - July 27, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 28, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - July 28, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ben Davis - July 26, 2017 at 8:52 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Foxaèr - July 26, 2017 at 8:55 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Joods - July 26, 2017 at 9:18 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Minimalist - July 26, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - July 26, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 27, 2017 at 12:58 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 2:00 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 28, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 2:12 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 28, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 7:55 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 10:53 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 29, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 2, 2017 at 1:38 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 28, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 12:56 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 1:01 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Succubus - July 27, 2017 at 2:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - July 27, 2017 at 4:32 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:51 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - July 28, 2017 at 9:37 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 9:40 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - July 31, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 31, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 31, 2017 at 7:12 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 31, 2017 at 10:17 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 1, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 2, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 2, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 2, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - August 2, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 2, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - August 2, 2017 at 11:49 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 3, 2017 at 12:18 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - August 3, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 3, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - August 3, 2017 at 10:29 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 3, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 4, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 4, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - August 4, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 4, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 4, 2017 at 7:43 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 3, 2017 at 11:03 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 2, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - August 2, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - August 3, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - July 27, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Succubus - July 27, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - July 28, 2017 at 12:43 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 29, 2017 at 2:32 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - July 26, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by brewer - July 26, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 26, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 26, 2017 at 12:19 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 26, 2017 at 2:49 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 8:23 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 27, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 9:00 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 27, 2017 at 3:33 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 29, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by LastPoet - July 26, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 26, 2017 at 6:06 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Foxaèr - July 26, 2017 at 7:54 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - July 26, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - July 26, 2017 at 8:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Athene - July 26, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Inkfeather132 - July 26, 2017 at 11:59 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by ignoramus - July 27, 2017 at 4:09 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Brian37 - July 27, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 27, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 27, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Lek - July 27, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 28, 2017 at 1:12 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2017 at 1:50 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astonished - July 28, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 29, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 29, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 31, 2017 at 8:36 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Thumpalumpacus - July 31, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Cyberman - July 31, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - July 31, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Drich - July 31, 2017 at 1:51 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Thumpalumpacus - July 29, 2017 at 3:47 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - July 31, 2017 at 8:25 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Thumpalumpacus - July 29, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 29, 2017 at 4:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Foxaèr - July 29, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mystical - July 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Astreja - July 30, 2017 at 9:47 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mystical - July 31, 2017 at 1:34 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Catholic_Lady - July 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - July 31, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Catholic_Lady - July 31, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by JackRussell - July 31, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by drfuzzy - August 2, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Valkyrie - August 2, 2017 at 10:56 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Mister Agenda - August 3, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Court Jester - August 3, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 4, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Court Jester - August 3, 2017 at 10:27 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 4, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 4, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Harry Nevis - August 4, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Ravenshire - August 4, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Godscreated - August 4, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Court Jester - August 4, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by Whateverist - August 4, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: I lost my Soul - by LastPoet - August 5, 2017 at 4:18 pm

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