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No Trans In The Military Says Trump
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RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(July 27, 2017 at 12:16 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Meh, I don't think it's right to tell a woman who feels uncomfortable with a naked biological male showering close to her own naked body that she just needs to "get over it" as though she's being petty or whatever.  

For the record, I'm not saying the naked shower thing is a legitimate reason to not let trans folks join. There are ways of solving that issue. I'm just saying I don't like the response of "get over it" to women who would understandably feel uncomfortable being naked around a naked male body who is not her significant other, even if that person identifies as female. I certainly wouldn't.

In college one of my dorms at least for that summer semester had a co ed bathroom. You know how many sexual assaults happened in that bathroom? NONE! Now, it wasn't like boys and girls were walking around naked in front of each other. The toilet stalls had doors, and the showers had curtains. The worst I ever saw was a robe. 

It is a myth that people not like you that you are not familiar with will assault you. When it comes to child molestation or even adult rape or assault, the victim is far more likely to be assaulted by someone they are familiar with than a complete stranger. If you have no problem with women or gays serving in the military then you should have no problem with Trans. 

If you think a trans man or trans woman is thinking about assaulting you in the context of combat, that is just fucking nuts. The last thing I would be thinking about in the context of combat would be sex. 

Trans and gays probably, just like women, have far more to fear being assaulted by bigoted men, than you do.
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No Trans In The Military Says Trump - by Amarok - July 26, 2017 at 9:48 am
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