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No Trans In The Military Says Trump
RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 9, 2017 at 12:29 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Oh, the other thing I think when he does shit like this: here's your shovel -- keep digging.

No, I think I'd rather not. I think you were already deep into typing when I changed my last post. For posterity's sake, let me just repost it here so it doesn't get buried.

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Yeah, after further consideration, I think I'm on the wrong side of this issue. I'm going to have to say that if the top brass value the contributions of trans people (or anyone else), then it's not my place to object either. Here's a pretty unequivocal statement about the issue right out of the horse's mouth:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/t...index.html

My position now is that I'd rather support the people, and resist the free speech-related legislation.

Still against penises in women's locker rooms for right now, though-- if we're going there, I'd rather not have separate changing rooms at all, and head more toward a full acceptance of the human body in ALL its forms: breasts and breast-feeding, penises and vaginas, nudity at beaches, people with changed body parts or other modifications. It's the reconciliation of traditional values (Eeeeek! A penis) with changing values that makes the issue uncomfortable. Better just drop the old altogether IMO and accept the human animal for what it is.
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No Trans In The Military Says Trump - by Amarok - July 26, 2017 at 9:48 am
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