(July 31, 2017 at 7:20 pm)J a c k Wrote:(July 31, 2017 at 4:58 pm)FFaith Wrote: I said in a way, but I know that's not technically consent, so I probably shouldn't have put it exactly like that, but what I meant is that it's like these people are begging to have their pictures leaked. They could choose to be a million times safer with it but decide not to think it through. It's like if you're a rich white guy who decides to take a walk through the hood showing off your nice watch. You're basically saying, please take my watch.
No, that's not what the rich dude is basically saying.
On another note:
Girl has a drink. The two dudes she's hanging out with offer her another drink. They mess with her drink. She stumbles out. They catch her at the corner. They sneak her into a house through a window. They rape her. They record the whole thing. She wakes up in her own vomit. She has bruises. She's sick. Everything hurts. How did she get home?
Days go by and she's finally able to go to work. She shows up. The attackers show up. They tell her about the recording. They'll show everybody if she says a word. She keeps her mouth shut. Except for her pastor. She tells her pastor. The pastor says she shouldn't have been drinking. She shouldn't have been hanging out with two dudes. She put herself in danger. She was basically asking for it. Perhaps the video is out there. Perhaps people watch it and she will never know. I say,
if one of those viewers knows it wasn't with consent, fuck them. They're human waste.
I know some things can't compare to others, but I will never stand for the whole... if she doesn't know, it won't hurt. I will never stand for the whole... she was basically asking for it. I will never understand thinking it's ok, because you weren't the one to do the actual crime. As long as people watch, there will be supply and demand.
If she didn't want you to see it, and you still see it, you lack human decency. Might not be a crime, but it doesn't make it right.
And before anyone says this was an extreme example... don't. I can imagine you understand the point.
And yet on another note:
I don't care if a woman knew the risk she was taking when she sent her boyfriend a nude, or if the rich guy knew the risk of wearing his watch. She's not asking you to forward it to all your friends and he's not asking you to steal his watch.
-An open window is not an invitation to trespass.
-An open purse is not an invitation to grab the wallet.
-A nude in iCloud is not an invitation to look.
Call these people irresponsible all you want, but if a person finds it too difficult to respect boundaries, they need to do some introspection. Why is it so important to look? Why must you take it?
And the whole thing about people needing wanking material... there are thousands of images online. To excuse looking at stolen pictures with that argument is lazy.
These celebs consented to having those pics and vids taken of them, and then uploaded them to the internet where in this day and age, there should be no expectation of privacy on the internet. Embarrassing things get leaked about celebs all the time. Did you listen to the secretly recorded tape of billionaire Donald Sterling humiliating himself taking about race? If so, why? It's a conversation recorded without his consent, which was humiliating and very damaging. More damaging than these celeb nudes. I guess anyone who listened to that is a piece of crap as well.