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viewing stolen nude photos
RE: viewing stolen nude photos
(August 12, 2017 at 12:49 am)pool the matey Wrote:
(August 11, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Still confused. Are you saying that looking at stolen pictures of another person's naked body against their will is not immoral?

I don't think this is a question of morality.
I mean, if a celebrity has their photos leaked and they ask everyone to not look at it, I mean, do I owe it to them to follow through on their request? Unless I'm getting paid to not look at it, it's just a stranger making a request to me, if I accept the request then fine, if I don't then it's still fine because a stranger asking me a favor shouldn't feel entitled to me following through with it, they should be fine either way because at the end of the day I don't owe them anything. You know?

Every act is either moral, immoral, or morally neutral.

So, is looking at stolen pictures of another persons naked body against their will, moral, immoral, or morally neutral?

(August 12, 2017 at 12:53 am)johan Wrote: So it doesn't seem a bit strange to you that you're able to answer a question with absolute certainty, yet you freely admit you've got no idea regarding a fairly significant factor involved in said question.


And I believe I've already answered the question earlier in the thread. I believe morality questions are like a light switch. There are only two positions available. Something is either moral or it isn't. Therefore I believe its best not to apply the question of morality to those things which pale in comparison to subjects like murder, rape, incest etc. Saying its immoral to jaywalk certainly does add weight to the crime of jaywalking because that act is now lumped into the same category as murder. But at the same time you've just lumped murder into the same category as jaywalking. IOW in your attempt to make the lessor crime seem more important by its association, you've also made the greater crime seem much less important by the same association. I don't think that's a very responsible thing to do.

However we could simply replace immoral with wrong and we'd probably still be asking essentially the same question. So do I think its wrong to view stolen nude photos of celebrities? Not really. The crime was committed and the harm was done to the victim when the photos were stolen and made public. I had nothing to do with that. If I don't look at the photos, the victim is no less harmed. And quite frankly if I do view them, the victim is no more harmed than they already were. And honestly, as harmed as the victim is, they're going to be just fine. We're not talking rape here. No one got killed. No one lost their life savings and was cast out on the street. They're embarrassed. They'll live. They're fine.

That being said, I don't actively seek these things out. I don't collect them (or any kind of porn for that matter). But if there are leaked nudes out there of a particular celebrity and for whatever reason, I happen to hear about and also happen to curious as to what he or she has doin' under those clothes, I wouldn't think twice about googling the images for a glance. I lose no sleep what so ever over it. You can judge me for this opinion if you must and I'm sure some will. Some will probably also not be shy about letting me know how they judge me. I will no sleep over that either.

Ok, I take it you don't want to and won't answer then.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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