(October 5, 2017 at 6:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, so let's suppose that God really does exist and that He proved His existence to you. He showed up and did exactly whatever was needed to convince you personally that He is real.
You had a conversation with Him for many many hours, over the course of many days in a row, and He even showed you things... like certain things in the future of humanity so you could see how everything will ultimately fall together. He took you back in time so you could see particular events, including many moments from the life of Jesus. He showed you what the afterlife is like, fully answered every single one of your questions about why He allows certain things to happen, etc, and cleared up all misconceptions and misunderstandings you have had that made you think He was bad.
Let's say you came away from all that realizing God isn't who you thought He would have been, but is actually completely good. Would you then want to be with Him? Want to follow His ways? Feel remorse for the times in your life when you acted wrongly?
...Or would you feel angry and continue on hating the idea of God (even after learning He actually is good), hating the idea of having to "answer" to a higher being, etc?
The problem with the scenario you pose is that it makes no sense. Atheists have long realized that nothing about the universe makes any sense if God was "completely good". At best, the only possible "good" Gods are the deist ones, the ones who set up everything and then just casually observe...the scientist Gods if you will.
The main reason we understand this is that most humans have morals that far exceed anything any holy book has ever come up with. Furthermore I reckon most people who sit down and think about it could probably imagine a redesigned universe which at the very least would solve a bunch of problems that we face. If God is all powerful and all good, this universe can't possibly be the best he could do. So either he's not all powerful or he's not all good, or he doesn't exist.
As for whether I'd want to be with him or follow his ways, I think it would depend on what his ways required. If it turns out that being homosexual is a sin or that dead babies go to purgatory, then fuck his "ways" and fuck his "all goodness" because it's bullshit.
I also take issue with the notion that atheists "hate" the idea of God or having to answer to a higher being. I don't hate the idea of God anymore than I hate the idea of unicorns. I have no issue with answering to authority as long as that authority has a valid reason for me to do so.
