RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 4, 2017 at 5:52 pm
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2017 at 5:52 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 4, 2017 at 5:36 pm)wallym Wrote:(December 4, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ...
I kind of ran out of time on the previous reply...
A question, for you (or others).
In a hypothetical (from your perspective) world with no deity, do you suspect we'd still see religion and morality playing a big role in human history?
It's really hard to answer that since I don't think any of us would be here at all if it weren't for a sort of higher force.
Honestly, I dont think so. As far as morality goes, while I believe in evolution and evolutionary behavior and all that, I still do think it was planned/foreseen to be this way. As you can recall, i believe in natural law. So I think nature and the way the world works is specifically designed with these moral laws in place, which is why we can discover them through logic and observation of our world. In other words, everything just seems "a little too perfect." If a God didn't exist and we really were just purely material accidents, i don't think things would be quite as ordered in terms of morality, knowing goodness from evil, etc. I can't really say how I think they would be like instead... perhaps more animalistic without an existance of good and evil? Just that I think things are the way they are as a result of an intelligent designer.
As for religion, I think the same principles apply. I can see how religion was a part of the evolutionary process and survival of the fittest, but I think it was designed to be that way, if you will.
(December 4, 2017 at 12:10 am)wallym Wrote: I'd also say to theists that reply, if you want to ignore the dipshit atheists that always flood these types threads, and just talk with me (and of course the other non dipshit atheists), that'd be cool and appreciated. I'm sincerely interested in what you have to say. But it seems like it's always a race to get a conversation going before the same boring people show up and say the same boring shit over and over and over.
Good call btw.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
