RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 6, 2017 at 1:13 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2017 at 1:15 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 6, 2017 at 12:45 pm)wallym Wrote:(December 5, 2017 at 5:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No. Not unless they found out how this all started and the answer leaves no room for a Deity, then I'd be rocked. But the notion that most scientists are skeptics, in and of itself, doesn't bother me. It tends to be in the nature of these type of folks, which is why they gravitate towards such career field in the first place.I guess. But they have as much information as anyone on the topic, and they don't seem to think it's obvious. Whereas you're looking at the information some of them have gathered, with a layman's understanding, and feel very confident saying deity.
I'm not saying that makes them right and you wrong. Or that your confidence is unfounded and their skepticism unwarranted. But it probably should cause serious doubts for you, intuitively.
Unless, maybe, the personal experience you had is actually the biggest confirmation of your belief in God? I can see how something like that might be information you and only you (and your mom) have that would make you more confident in picking God over the alternative when expert physicists are balking at the notion.
Hypothetical realities are always tough, but if you didn't have the PE, do you think you'd still be as sure about this?
Science is the study of the natural, physical world. Makes sense a scientist wouldnt bring any sort of deity into the picture since it isnt something they can see, study, or measure in any way. Its outside their field of work, and would be inappropriate for them, as professionals, to do so. Their job is to try to find answers about our world without resorting to a deity for any of it.
It makes the most sense to me personally. We have no answers as to how the first physical thing came to exist, which leaves room for individual speculations and guesses. Some will guess the same as myself, others that it's probable the first thing could have just materialized from nothing, others may think it always existed, and others will guess that it's all an eternal cycle with no beginning and no end. (And of course, some may refrain from having any sort of opinion on the matter, except that the deity proposition certainly isn't it.) There isn't proof or evidence for any of these, and of course I may be wrong about the God thing all together, though obviously I don't think I am.
And yes, my personal experience is by far my strongest piece of evidence. By far. I'd probably still be a Christian without having had it, though not as confident of one.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh