List of reasons to believe God exists?

[Amarok]

2) The thing with objectivity, is that it's premises also have to be objective.  An objective conclusion based on a subjective premise is subjective.  That's where people are going to try and slip one by you.

I suspect that this will devolve into a meaningless or trivial subjectivity.  That we are all subjective agents, and necessarily so, does not prevent us from recognizing or describing objectivity.

I subjectively experience writing this post.  You subjectively experience reading it.  It's existence, however....and the truth of whether or not there is a post, and the contents of the post, can be objectively determined apart from either of our subjective experience thereof.   Now...it might be helpful to mention that  the objection above is not actually an objection to moral realism itself, but a more fundamental objection to the existence of facts or our ability to possess them.  If you object to this, how can we communicate or argue for anything..including the nonexistence of or inability to possess facts?

The claim of moral realism is small, unencumbered by any additional requirements.  There is no need to deny our subjectivity in order to assert or demonstrate moral objectivity, no need to "slip" anything by anyone.  That;s not to say that people don;t do that...that people won;t make the attempt in order to argue that some subjective or arbitrary (or divine) x is objective morality.  They will, and they do.  That;s because those people are bad at logic, and bad at moral realism..not because there's some particular issue with moral realism in that regard.  

If -that- is what you're objecting to, then you're objecting to incompetence, not moral realism.  You are responding to their mistakes, not the claim itself.

Indeed moral realism is a humble proposal . It's just humans are not great at it .