List of reasons to believe God exists?

[henryp]

Wallym, do you remember the argument, if morality is objective, than it is eternal? It made use of some premises and then proved this conclusion.

So do you find fault with that argument? That would be a fact about morality. I will rephrase it to suit our purposes:

1. If a hypothetical Creator can create morality from nothing, it would be able to make it what it wishes.
2. If it can make it what it wishes, it can be arbitrary.
3. If it can be arbitrary, it can be the case that torturing an innocent soul forever morally good to do.
4. It is impossible it is morally good to do if objective morality exists.
5. If objective morality exists, than a Creator cannot create objective morality from nothing.
6. If a hypothetical Creator cannot create objective morality out of nothing than nothing else can.
7. Therefore if objective morality exists, it is eternal.

And if we combine it with our argument, we see we have vivid knowledge, that cannot be objective morality and non-eternal at the same time.

That means we do have knowledge of an objective moral fact which if premise 1 is true, would prove objective morality to be real.

The problem with introducing anything that doesn't exist in reality into reality, is that it means we're talking about a new hypothetical reality.  And the nature of a hypothetical reality can't be known.  In a hypothetical reality, do things follow logically?  You can't know that they do.  So even an ironclad proof formed with the logic in our reality can't say anything about the nature of a hypothetical reality.  

So in a hypothetical reality with a Creator, there are no premises for us to build arguments on.  

It's the same reason, as an Atheist, I no longer make arguments that try to point out contradictions in the nature of a hypothetical God.  Because those contradictions exist according to logic and understanding of our reality.  But a hypothetical God doesn't exist in our reality.  It's like saying Harry Potter can't fly because of Gravity.