Why does science always upstage God?

[The Architect Of Fate]

"You have not established a need for the supernatural let alone a god."

Sure I did, you just lied and said I didn't.

No, you didn't. Not even close 

"The only one who has been dancing around is you doing the same tired two-step as every other desperate god botherer who's come here has."

Another lie from you. Nothing new, it's a tactic used by many of you. I gave straight forward science only fools doubt and guess who doubts them but has no science to doubt them? Yes, YOUR side. Let's see what other lies you have.

Nope, all you did was trot out some current laws and then made a massive non-sequitur meanwhile we have given objections that a perfectly compatible with science. So no lies here I'm afraid.

"When you get around to demonstrating that rules that currently apply to things within the universe must apply to before or to the formation of the universe without running afoul of a composition fallacy come back and try again."

You are just another person who can't read, think, or be honest. I made it clear creation had to be supernatural. I never said the laws applied from the start when they could not have. Duh, I don't know how to make that clearer to your small brain. Now try to think even though that's hard for you.....YOU believe this all happened naturally so YOU need to show that in this natural universe that we now have, there was a time creation happened naturally or always existed that the laws I gave did not apply. Science does not show that. Science shows they always had to apply in our natural realm That is too much honesty though for you liars to accept. The cry all you want, you have NO science to back you up. So don't go whining how science upstages God when you jokes don't even follow science. 

I never claimed the universe had to be formed naturally I simply don't accept the claim it was formed supernaturally. Those are two very different claims and no I don't need to prove something I never positively asserted. Nor has science shown that our current laws always had to have applied to the universe so this is simply false nor can you make that claim without engaging in composition fallacy. So appealing to the natural laws to insist the universe must have been created supernaturally fails, And science does consistently upstage god and your little rants here have not shown the contrary. So it's in fact you who has NO science to back up your claims.

"Also, natural events don't need to  follow the current laws of physics to be natural.  "

Tiny brain person, if the laws of physics don't apply to a natural event, that event then is supernatural. I actually needed to explain that to you. Here's an example for your tiny brain, if a perpetual motion machine was invented, that would break the 2LT and be considered something beyond natural. Beyond natural is supernatural. 

Nope if something doesn't follow our current natural laws that don't make it supernatural. If I traveled to different dimensions and found a whole different set of physics then there is no reason to call that supernatural also if I went to a time before there were natural laws that are also not supernatural because you can't break or defy laws that don't exist. So try again.

And the big laugh again is, you're just another tiny brain who thinks science upstages God and you don't even know science and when I put science in front of you all, all I get is we don't know. You all don't know because you refuse to know what science really is

I laugh because you are an absurd person. Yes, science does upstage god because science is willing to acknowledge the limits of its knowledge and is willing to say "i don't know but let's find out " and consistently this approach has knocked down the supernatural explanations never has it simply given up and said "Magic done it" that's not science. You have presented no science that shows the natural laws as they currently are applied to the formation of the universe rather than being a product of it. To my knowledge, no scientist makes this claim nor to my knowledge have scientists excluded different configurations of laws or no laws at all. So I'm sorry you have no idea what science is I'm afraid to you it's merely a tool to push your cult.

So this little rage-filled rant of yours while amusing has no real substance