Why does science always upstage God?

[Billy Bob]

1. The atheist doesn't need to prove the universe wasn't created. Because he doesn't claim it wasn't merely that the theist has not proven it was. 

2. The Atheist doesn't have to refute any laws as he can merely say they are conditional and we don't know if they apply always. The theist makes the positive claim that a supernatural force that created the universe doesn't prove it so his claim is simply unjustified till he does and pointing to current laws and conditions is not adequate to this task

3. We don't need to show life anywhere else to not accept the claim the universe was fine-tuned for life as no amount. Simply pointing to life as it is now is not enough ....Sorry 

So overall your demands can be safely rejected. Now get on with the actual evidence 

Right, the atheist can lie and lie and doesn't have to do shit about it. Wow.

"1. The atheist doesn't need to prove the universe wasn't created. Because he doesn't claim it wasn't merely that the theist has not proven it was."

You LOVE lying. Science shows the universe was created. Your compulsive lying does not change that. 

Here it is AGAIN....


Evidence points to nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. It must be observable, repeatable, and falsifiable. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This (the 1LT and 2LT) all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the doubters resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We know these laws and have NO doubts about them.

You can look up those laws. I didn't make them up. It didn't come out of a church. 

"2. The Atheist doesn't have to refute any laws as he can merely say they are conditional and we don't know if they apply always."

You can say they are conditional but you have to prove they were since it is YOU that is saying it. Or, just admit you can make up anything you want and have NO evidence to back it up. That's what you're doing but lying is your love.

"3. We don't need to show life anywhere else to not accept the claim the universe was fine-tuned for life as no amount."

There are evo-nuts that are at least honest enough to agree that the fine-tuning in the universe for life on earth is a harsh reality. You jokes are not honest. Oh, let's have more fun and you tell me how life began on its own too. Let me guess, you don't have to do that either. You're such a fake.