Why does science always upstage God?

[Peebothuhlu]

Hey, read the thread title and stop crying. I'm giving science that supports God and NONE of you can give science that refutes me to back up your claim, 'Why does science always upstage God?' 

"If it's inside the universe, the JWT or the Hubble should be able to spot it."

What is it seeing? Is it seeing nothing? It's seeing something. How did that something get there on its own? I showed that it could not happen on its own. So you all go crying how we don't know how as you ignore science. It's the typical atheistic two-step. I showed other things too that NO ONE can get around such as the fine-tuning, how we got life and even how we got human sexual reproduction. You're all stuck.

Hello again.

So, could you refresh what your 'Proof points' were? It'll make any of my further replies to you a tad easier.

Also, you giving points towards a deity in no way means people have to refute a deity. People just have to be accepting of your proofs which, so far, do not seem to be the case. You're kind of engaging in, if not a fallacy, then at least a non existent dichotomy.

As for your referring to 'Something happening on its own'?
Are you aware of nuclear fission? Where unstable atoms spontaneously and totally randomly fall apart?
How about Hawking Radiation? The principal (Bolstered by Roger Penrose's work) that from simple 'Space time' quantum fluctuations cause virtual atoms to pop in and out of existence. That at the extreme reality bending area of a black hole's event horizon the forces involved make said virtual particles become 'Real'?
A third thing, if you're a "Free will" proponent, is that your 'Free will' must come from nothing. As in one moment you don't have an impulse about or to do something and the next 'Pop!' you do.

Then there's the 'Fine tuning' thing. Where?
The Earth sits in a zone along with Venus and Mars that we're pretty sure allow for liquid water under an atmosphere. So we're one out of three there.
Then there's the orbit of the Earth which meanders over a few million miles per orbit, hence effecting the temperature for all involved just a little bit.
Followed by the wobble in the Earth's rotation that screws with things just a little bit more.
Then you've got the constant flexing of the Earth by the Moon as it meanders back and forth in its orbit heating the place up and causing tectonic shifts, earthquakes, volcanoes.....
The list of things 'Out of whack' in the system just goes on and on and on..... Would you like to know more?

Finally, as for the whole 'Sex' thing? Yah, biologists are pretty sure they know when THAT revolution kicked off and advanced life wasn't really on the scene for a few billion years to come.

Soooo.... take your time processing my reply. Have fun sorting through things. Have a musical day.

Cheers.

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