So why did the hook nose "become a thing" in discriminatory appearance?
January 16, 2018 at 6:11 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2018 at 6:13 am by Roberto.)
But why hook nose though? What if that person has disabilities. I thought it was the heart that made you evil or something?
Like illustration wise. I have feeling where they got the idea from. Just to illustrate here is an old french manuscript on Magog and Gog
![[Image: Toulouse_ms_815-049v-Gog%26Magog.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Toulouse_ms_815-049v-Gog%26Magog.jpg)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
Well kind of familiar stereotype honestly if you get what i mean.
Like i think i know where this came to be. But its at best loosly taken.
Let me first tell about what Gog and Magog is about
Also for your info "Son of a man" is also allegory for Jesus in some Christian circles.
To sum it up. Gog and Magog is essentially sort of a boogeyman for oppressing nations. Magog was originally son of Japeth who is like european related i think in terms of genealogy of the bible. Out of them Magog was his son. Not sure about Gog though, though in hebrew text Gog is an individual and is of the land of Magog. Now in Christian text in book of revelations Gog and Magog are both nations i think.
Here is some on Gog and Magog to highlight some of the stuff
Ezekiel 38:1 -11
The word of the LORD came to me:
"Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshek and Tubal; prophesy against him
and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal.
I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army--your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords.
Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets,
also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops--the many nations with you.
"'Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them.
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.
You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.
"'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme.
You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.
And alas. Let me set the verse which is essentially what i think was used.
Isaiah 37:29
Because you rage against me and because your insolence has reached my ears, I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth, and I will make you return by the way you came.
Isn't religion just wonderful : ) Ironic.
But yes let me know what you think.
Like illustration wise. I have feeling where they got the idea from. Just to illustrate here is an old french manuscript on Magog and Gog
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
Well kind of familiar stereotype honestly if you get what i mean.
Like i think i know where this came to be. But its at best loosly taken.
Let me first tell about what Gog and Magog is about
Also for your info "Son of a man" is also allegory for Jesus in some Christian circles.
To sum it up. Gog and Magog is essentially sort of a boogeyman for oppressing nations. Magog was originally son of Japeth who is like european related i think in terms of genealogy of the bible. Out of them Magog was his son. Not sure about Gog though, though in hebrew text Gog is an individual and is of the land of Magog. Now in Christian text in book of revelations Gog and Magog are both nations i think.
Here is some on Gog and Magog to highlight some of the stuff
Ezekiel 38:1 -11
The word of the LORD came to me:
"Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshek and Tubal; prophesy against him
and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal.
I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army--your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords.
Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets,
also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops--the many nations with you.
"'Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them.
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.
You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.
"'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme.
You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.
And alas. Let me set the verse which is essentially what i think was used.
Isaiah 37:29
Because you rage against me and because your insolence has reached my ears, I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth, and I will make you return by the way you came.
Isn't religion just wonderful : ) Ironic.
But yes let me know what you think.
