Do I believe Atheists are going to hell?

[Catholic_Lady]

I'm not saying they are non sentient robots. I'm saying that what they DO have isn't enough to qualify as having moral responsibility, and thus, moral free will. Meaning God isn't going to punish "immoral dogs" for being immoral. They are all morally innocent.

I see where you're coming from and, on par with that spectrum thing, I tell you that I think humans are merely more complex than animals and, like them, lacking in true "moral free will".... or any free will.

Ok, that's fair enough. I know a lot of atheists don't believe in free will at all. But yes, my argument is that animals aren't at a level, mentally, where they have moral responsibility/moral free will. Humans are. I'm ok with you disagreeing that humans have free will. I just don't like it when people pretend there is 0 difference between the way humans can feel/rationalize, etc, vs how the rest of the animals can, so I'm glad you acknowledge that. Also when people counter argue by saying "Well humans are animals too!" ...because it's like "Yes, I know we are technically animals too, but you know what I mean, come on!" Lol. You would think I said something controversial by saying human are mentally more complex than the rest of the animals or something.

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I'm not saying they are non sentient robots. I'm saying that what they DO have isn't enough to qualify as having moral responsibility, and thus, moral free will. Meaning God isn't going to punish "immoral dogs" for being immoral. They are all morally innocent.

According to you:

Animals: No free will.

Humans: Free will.

Have I misrepresented you again?

No. But what you are missing is that this doesn't mean I'm saying we aren't on a spectrum of awareness. Just that animals (other animals that aren't human!), aren't on the level of the spectrum that becomes moral awareness to the point where they would be morally responsible, and thus, qualify as having moral free will.

In other words, God will not "punish" my cat for having attacked and pissed off my other cat this morning. And etc. They are morally innocent.

If we didn't have moral free will (as some people seem to think it would be best if we didnt), it would just mean we would be less advanced creatures - like monkeys.