FatAndFaithless Wrote:robvalue Wrote:Yeah. Even though some people say "just agnostic", which I consider is incorrect for a weak atheist (second definition), it does at least differentiate. Maybe strong atheists could be "nongodbois".
Really, someone making a counter claim has gone beyond atheism so it could easily have its own name, even though it's a subset of atheism in general.
I prefer to send the question back and say, "Try again with words that mean something". Atheism is giving theism too much credit as a proposition, that it even deserves an answer.
Sure, but saying "I'm just an agnostic" doesn't make any real sense, if you're asking them the simple question "do you believe it's true that a god exists?". Agnostic simply means they don't think it can be known - but they're not being asked about knowledge. Just seems that the people who say "I'm just an agnostic" are simply averse to the label "atheist" for whatever reason. And the messiness of the term atheism can give them a reason.
Some people who say they are agnostic will also say they believe there's 'Something' with a capital S, a higher being or reality of some sort, they just acknowledge that they're not in a position to be able to define it, or even know that it's real, but they still believe. Or they may even believe in a particular version of God while acknowledging that rational justification of the belief is impossible. I went through that as a phase after I stopped being a Christian.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
