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Drich vs. Neo-Scholastic: Revelation - Observations or Allegories ?

why can't they be both?

Well for one thing, if you calculate the size of the Holy City literally according to the number of cubits, the top floors would be above the earth's atmosphere and it would be so massive that it would throw the entire earth off balance. So unless John was seeing some kind of George Jetson space tower, it seems more plausible to assume that John was providing a spiritual meaning by means of physical metaphors.
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are you talking about revelation 21?

In my bible it opens with:
 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The first heaven and the first earth had disappeared. Now there was no sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God. It was prepared like a bride dressed for her husband.

Clearly we are talking about a new place, a "new Heaven and a New Earth" this new earth has no sea. that does not describe Earth now. So then why can't the new city spire extended beyond the boundaries of the old earth?

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Your question is malformed. No one deserves a pleasant afterlife. We have all sinned and fallen short. We all deserve separation from God. It is only by the free gift offered that we don't get what we deserve. The difference is that you implied you deserve a "lesser afterlife" because you are not a Christian. That is not the case and the difference has huge impact on the whole worldview.

I don't think anyone ultimately deserves anything be it good or bad.

But considering God knew that original sin was going to happen he condemned everyone knowingly anyway.

I mean, according to the Bible.

so?

He also provided reconciliation for all who simply wanted it enough to believe in it. That's the part you people always seem to forget.

Imagine a time of global starvation where a simple loaf of sliced bread is being sold for a week's to a month's wage 2500 to 4000 dollars.

Now imagine a person who could provide everyone with a loaf a day whether or not they had the means to pay for it. However He could not give it to them, As per store policy, they would have to take it. But rather than prosecute everyone as a thief this 'store own' wishes to honor his son who died percuring this bread. So then the own swore to provide clemency for all who seek it for ever (no matter how much bread they took.) If they simply asked him for it, by paying respect to the son.

but for everyone else who would ignore or spit on the image of his son he sought them out to be arrested. Now who's fault is it that you will be arrested if you stole the bread and did not seek forgiveness? After all option A was to simply pay your own way. No one made you take the bread, you could have paid for it yourself.

Yet all thieves cry the same sad song. blaming the store owner for the global price of the bread, rather than thankng him for finding a way to provide us with this bread even at such a high cost.