(May 10, 2018 at 4:22 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: What is the air speed velocity of an African swallow?

Don't ask such easy questions. It's pointless. Instead ask them a really difficult one, like, try asking them what their favorite color is. Make sure they don't shoot off the bridge. I'm always doing that. I'm always shooting off all over the damn place. I just can't help myself. It makes an absolute mess of my bedsheets.

(May 10, 2018 at 11:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Would the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life change your views on/belief in god?

Why would t? are you not aware of the definition of extraterrestrial life?

God the angels and demons all fit that definition...

In fact God could can be considered a trans dimensional Being.

The idea of God having to be a being of magic or of mystical origins is foolishness that religious people made up to corn hole the market on God.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:47 am)robvalue Wrote: Do you think non-Christians deserve to have a lesser afterlife, just for not being Christians?

Just out of interest, did any Christians address this?

(May 10, 2018 at 4:25 pm)robvalue Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 8:47 am)robvalue Wrote: Do you think non-Christians deserve to have a lesser afterlife, just for not being Christians?

Just out of interest, did any Christians address this?

I didn't notice them respond.

(May 10, 2018 at 12:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(May 10, 2018 at 10:12 am)Drich Wrote: Because taking a human life, and murder are two completely different things.

This is true even on the level of Man. In the form of the state declaring war, or executing a criminal, or in a liberal state allow abortions. lest you think all women who've had abortions are murders...

So then how is God restricted to make the distinction between murder and killing if we can do the very same thing?

Does God ever define what constitutes murder in the bible?

exo 21:
12 “Whoever hits and kills someone must be killed too. 13 But if an accident happens, and a person kills someone without planning it, then God allowed that thing to happen. I will choose some special places where people can run to for safety. So that person can run to one of those places. 14 But whoever plans to kill someone out of anger or hatred must be punished. Take them away from my altar[c] and kill them.

The word is the same for murder and kill the intent is key which is explained above.

Transliteration

harag
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H2026&t=KJV

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(May 9, 2018 at 9:33 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(May 9, 2018 at 9:19 am)Drich Wrote: Like what? the book of revelation?

God sat one man down and had him describe what he saw/how the world ends. What was written was an ancient understanding of a modern war.

There' some fodder for an intrachristian debate....

Drich vs. Neo-Scholastic: Revelation - Observations or Allegories ?

why can't they be both?

Imagine being placed at the edge of a battle 2 or 3 thousand years into the future, would you have the words to accurately portray all of the things you saw? could you accurately describe the politics or would you relate it to an allegory based on star wars and game of throwns./something you knew??

(May 10, 2018 at 4:25 pm)robvalue Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 8:47 am)robvalue Wrote: Do you think non-Christians deserve to have a lesser afterlife, just for not being Christians?

Just out of interest, did any Christians address this?

Your question is malformed. No one deserves a pleasant afterlife. We have all sinned and fallen short. We all deserve separation from God. It is only by the free gift offered that we don't get what we deserve. The difference is that you implied you deserve a "lesser afterlife" because you are not a Christian. That is not the case and the difference has huge impact on the whole worldview.

(May 10, 2018 at 4:25 pm)robvalue Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 8:47 am)robvalue Wrote: Do you think non-Christians deserve to have a lesser afterlife, just for not being Christians?

Just out of interest, did any Christians address this?

I answered you

(May 9, 2018 at 9:33 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Drich vs. Neo-Scholastic: Revelation - Observations or Allegories ?

why can't they be both?[/quote]

Well for one thing, if you calculate the size of the Holy City literally according to the number of cubits, the top floors would be above the earth's atmosphere and it would be so massive that it would throw the entire earth off balance. So unless John was seeing some kind of George Jetson space tower, it seems more plausible to assume that John was providing a spiritual meaning by means of physical metaphors.

(May 10, 2018 at 4:41 pm)SteveII Wrote:

(May 10, 2018 at 4:25 pm)robvalue Wrote: Just out of interest, did any Christians address this?

Your question is malformed. No one deserves a pleasant afterlife. We have all sinned and fallen short. We all deserve separation from God. It is only by the free gift offered that we don't get what we deserve. The difference is that you implied you deserve a "lesser afterlife" because you are not a Christian. That is not the case and the difference has huge impact on the whole worldview.

I don't think anyone ultimately deserves anything be it good or bad.

But considering God knew that original sin was going to happen he condemned everyone knowingly anyway.

I mean, according to the Bible.

(May 10, 2018 at 4:25 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 10, 2018 at 11:12 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Would the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life change your views on/belief in god?

Why would t? are you not aware of the definition of extraterrestrial life?

God the angels and demons all fit that definition...

In fact God could can be considered a trans dimensional Being.

The idea of God having to be a being of magic or of mystical origins is foolishness that religious people made up to corn hole the market on God.

I don't consider god, angels and demons, life. What else ya got?