RE: Is there free will in heaven?
October 30, 2011 at 7:18 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2011 at 7:19 am by lucent.)
(October 30, 2011 at 7:02 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Nope, you have no idea of what you mean.
You have uttered two completely contradictory statements and you can't see the contradiction.
Statement one; No one dies unless god decides they should.
Statement two; because of freewill a person can kill some one else even though god hasn't decided it is their time to die. Which completely refutes your first statement.
Statement 2 is false, I never said that. I said God would prefer that such a thing would not happen, but due to free will allows it to happen.
(October 30, 2011 at 7:02 am)Zen Badger Wrote: BTW your freewill argument for why god does not reveal himself to humanity because then they won't have a choice in following him or not is a crock of shit.
Satanists by definition believe in god, but choose not to follow him.
They have exercised their freewill.
Most Satanists actually don't believe in God, they are just spiritual hedonistic atheists. In any case, if God were always around, people would be significantly less free, which would impact free will. Many more people would feel obligated to follow him, and those who specifically don't follow him would change their minds out of fear. Sin would also receive more immediate punishment. God being around would dramatically change the worlds behavior in every conceivable way. It's amazing you can't see that.
