(November 9, 2011 at 7:47 am)Greatest I am Wrote:(November 9, 2011 at 7:18 am)twocompulsive Wrote: If you enter Heaven then you will no
longer need to reference any negative
characteristics such as pride lust jealousy
or envy. Would be superfluous to requirement
You would therefore not be human or at least in
psychological terms but on a higher spiritual or meta
physical plane. The nearest equivalent to that that already
exists would be consciousness raising through meditation. But
would however be more subtle and advanced than that. If I was
God there would be no way I would allow humans entry into Paradise
without a serious alteration in their basic psychology. Altruism would be
the order of the day. Shame that He did not implement that a bit earlier on
Just three quick points.
First, you are aware that most, if not all, altruistic acts have a self serving component.
Links on request.
Second, you seem to think that the human characteristics you have shown are completely negative. I would argue that within each of these, perhaps at a lower intensity that we normally give those characteristics, there is something that feed their positive counterparts. IOW, to kill the negative also kills the positive. The ancients, as well as today, may have known this and that is why they had a tree of good and evil and not a tree for good and another for evil. They say the duality and interwoven-ness of those characteristics. Separate
Third, In heaven, if you are always doing God’s will, how could you know that you have a free will of your own, without ever testing or using it. How could you know that you were an autonomous entity without ever doing anything autonomously?
You could not. Catch 22.
Rather like A & E in Eden.
Regards
DL
Disregard my previous and run with this
instead : Heaven is a metaphysical state and
therefore cannot be explained by the antiquated
methodology of human thought commonly referred
to as logic. You know how quantum mechanics makes
zero sense yet is true. Well multiply that by infinity and for
infinity and you will have got nowhere at all in comprehending
what it is. Is so way beyond human interpretation that it would be
akin to expecting a baby to understand everything that ever was and
will be in a nano second after it is born. Off the scale is putting it mildly
[ am letting my imagination go wild here since none of this is true given that
it cannot exist but interesting nevertheless to see what your response would be ]
A MIND IS LIKE A PARACHUTE : IT DOES NOT WORK UNLESS IT IS OPEN