Sorry for getting everyone off on a tangent. Subjective good is a healthy and normative source for personal morality and tons of people, regardless of their religious beliefs, are good by those standards. Since atheists don't believe, see evidence for, follow or care about a god(s) (depending on your flavor) I don't see why they would care about Christians having a standard to objectively improve that subjective morality. [/end tangent]
(November 10, 2011 at 4:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL, no, I don't want to quibble. I want you to substantiate the answer you gave because I don't feel that it has any value or merit if this can't be done. It's a non-answer. A platitude.Fine then, a simple question, what are the standards by which you expect me to establish by proof or competent evidence the immaterial?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari