(May 24, 2018 at 12:32 pm)robvalue Wrote: Sure, his question wasn't very specific, so if we assume we're dealing with standard maths, then it can't be because we say it can't be. We have total control over what the symbols mean and how they function. This is completely different to trying to model reality. We don't get to tell reality how to behave.
Be nice if could though, amiright? Our asserted laws imply that causality is bidirectional in time. If our assertions made reality behave that way then none of us would ever have past mistakes to fix, lol.
Meanwhile, irl, we realize that the rules we make for systems don;t always apply one for one outside of those systems themselves....much to apologists chagrin.
Or....in less boring terms...if wishes were horses we'd ride together.
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