RE: Yup. "Murrica Has No Shortage of Deplorable Motherfuckers
June 22, 2018 at 10:05 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2018 at 10:10 am by henryp.)
(June 22, 2018 at 9:30 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(June 22, 2018 at 9:13 am)henryp Wrote: How about this, do you think White people in Connecticut are probably smarter in general than White people in Alabama.
Seems unlikely that there would be a significant difference. But if they are, it is likely due to differing average levels of educational attainment and differences in history that have affected their institutions, and possibly other environmental factors. I mean, it's obvious when you compare white people to white people that it's not really their race that's the relevant factor, isn't it?
https://www.ttu.ee/public/m/mart-murdvee...elates.pdf
So if you can show or if you believe people from Connecticut and Alabama can have differences because of environmental factors, educational attainment, and differences in history...wouldn't you also expect that black people and white people, who also have different environmental factors, radically different educational attainment, and radically different histories would also have different results?
A geographical location doesn't cause you to be smart or stupid. Being black or white doesn't cause you to be more or less intelligent. But the circumstances, and for black america, it was some pretty brutal fucking circumstances, are going to skew the numbers for each group.
As a group, black america got fucked over pretty hard for a few centuries. This sort of data is a confirmation of that for the reasons you say. In that it reflects environmental factors and historical differences. And we can use that information as evidence that there is not an even playing field. That affirmative action, particularly in regards to education, or criminal justice policies in urban neighborhoods, and things of this nature should take into consideration these differences. The conclusions and follow through for believing the ideas you call racist don't have to be negative.
I guess the point I'm getting at, is I understand why racist Trump supporters would embrace these statistics, and draw racist conclusions.
What's confusing is why progressive non-racists would deny the statistics? Sticking your head in the sand, because some numbers aren't what you wish they were seems like a mistake to me. People just need to draw the right conclusions, which you've already recognized when comparing Connecticut and Alabama.
