(June 26, 2018 at 11:01 pm)Fireball Wrote:(June 26, 2018 at 9:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I've seen a number of times here, and in another thread, references to protected classes. My understanding is that some believe that it is ok to discriminate, as long as the person is not a part of this protected class. This to me, appears little more than a technicality. That if a person can not fit on the list, then it is ok to disrespect them, even though the reasoning, and the actions are very similar. On the other hand, I would consider discrimination to have a more moral underpinning. That the bigotry was wrong before there was a protected class, or a particular group was added to that list. The "protected class" represents a larger moral principle. How would you justify discrimination of one person, and so easily dismiss similar actions and sentiment towards another? Or is it just a technical thing, and enforcing the law, where if you are not on the list, then it is perfectly all right to discriminate? Many statements and actions particularly of the left lately seem hateful and hypocritical to me (although the right is not free from blame either).
I would contend that the reverse is true, and that the right does and has done it worse than the left for centuries, and in some cases, for millennia. Though they weren't called "the right" in those days; they were just called "men" in those days, with a heaping helping of religion. Women's and minority's rights (as well as LGBTQ rights) have only made some sort of headway in recent decades- women since the '20s, minorities since the '60s, and LGBTQ still in the works. Getting a law that allows other than white males to be treated as "equals"? You have to be kidding. It should have been that way all along. I think maybe a bit of understanding about the backlash would be in order, especially since the "right" assuming whites are still out there carrying torches like villagers in some novel by Mary Shelley. I wonder if there is an organization on the left that competes openly and ideologically against the KKK, for example?
I was speaking more about now. I don’t think that pointing to others and what they have done effects this either way. If anything we should learn from mistakes of the past.
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