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Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 18, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Except that you cant present an example of that actually happening any more than peterson could, and even -as- you believed that peterson was describing a real example.  Informed of the fact that he wasn't, you wheedled and maintained that it was a stretch..but it's not even a stretch.  It's completely and utterly fictional. 
lol

I can give specific examples of these ideas being used to manipulate, and have. I could give more, but you'd keep trotting out the No True Scotsman argument. Oh THOSE aren't the real PC left. . .


Quote:No amount of not calling black people niggers leads to unfairness in society..period.  Agreed?  No amount of refusing to engage in further discrimination of already or previously discriminated against groups leads to unfairness in society, agreed? No amount of refusing to re-disenfranchise historically disenfranchised peoples leads to unfairness in society, agreed?  
Quote:Too. . . many. . . double. . . negatives. . . can. . . not. . . compute.

If I see white people discriminating against black people on the basis of their being black, I will strongly disagree with them, and I believe I will likely have the courage to stand up and say so. And it's for much the same reason-- group membership shouldn't automatically win or lose an argument, or put one party in the right or wrong. It certainly should decide who will be called out of a group and attacked.

I'm not against black people, gay, or anything else. I'm against stereotyping, and then pretending that it's a noble thing.
-and you're still crying me a river, whitey.  Toughen up, bucko, and sort yourself out.
Your insistence on racist politics is duly noted, and disregarded.

Quote:It couldn't possibly be the case that I'm giving you shit for regurgitating the common propaganda and complaints of the racists with which I am intimately familiar, among which I grew up, by whom I was raised, in whose society I freely walk as an assumed member.

And it couldn't possibly be that morally and intellectually weak people, seeing that if they play the victim card, won't immediately seize on it as an easy way out of personal responsibility.

I preferentially hired black people last year-- not because I'm a champion of black people, but because I'd worked with a couple white kids who were so fucking enfranchised and selfish that I thought I couldn't do worse. Then I had it even worse. And it was very clear that the reason it was worse is because two of them in particular had realized that if they pulled the race card over every little thing, I was going to have to back down.

Where did they get that idea, pray tell? From thin air? From a study of sound political philosophy? No-- they were perfectly aware of the memes spun out of the PC left, and they were perfectly willing to use them for their own benefit. And unlike you, I believe this to be typical, rather than atypical. I believe that most people these days, in particular young people, have no sense of discipline or work ethic, and would rather spew PC nonsense than roll up their sleeves and do a decent day's work.

And don't think I'm just racist, though I suspect that probably quite a lot of black people are likely using their card to maximum benefit. I hate equally well the white kid with the dreadlocks, with the $200 hemp satchel and the $2000 Apple laptop, who uses his allowance to buy $10 Starbucks coffees blogging all day about how feminist he is, because he pulls the same kind of shit: "I wasn't immediately offered a high paying job for my BA in fart-sniffing. . . it must be because Wall Street is afraid of my individuality and there's a conspiracy to keep me dowwwwn!" He's found a way, despite probably coming from a rich white suburb, to identify himself in demographic terms, too-- and to ignore the very obvious fact that his degree in neo-post-modernist finger painting techniques was never going to provide him with a chance to pay off his student debt.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this? - by bennyboy - August 18, 2018 at 7:31 pm

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