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Morality
RE: Morality
(January 23, 2019 at 9:00 am)Acrobat Wrote: You're under no obligation to watch total drama island.
No shit, lol!

Quote:In platonic moral realism moral facts and moral obligations are not distinct subjects.
So?  In reality, they are.  That's always the problem with idealism, huh..lol?

Quote:In fact in order to be moral anything, the obligation, the ought has to be a part of it.
Not so much.  What you're discussing is deontological ethics.  

Quote:Holocaust is morally wrong. I'm assuming you accept this as a moral fact?
I do, yeah.

Quote:Now explain why this is morally wrong, without reference to obligations, or oughts.
Harm.

Quote:Is it just a description of the negative societal impact of the holocaust? Or something akin to such explanations?
Could be, sure.  When we refer to negative societal impacts we're referring to conceptual harm..but it's sheer presence doesn't compel us to avoid it, and we may have good reason to do that harm (or to let it be done) - so..you can see, that no specific obligation presents itself at this point or level of scrutiny.  

We require an evaluative premise -in addition- to our moral fact, in order to derive an ought.  This is what the much bandied around is-ought problem refers to.  It's the addition of the evaluative premise that supplies the ought, not the mere existence of the moral fact (in this case, the harm of holocaust).

We could run the same in reverse, btw. We could posit that holocaust is morally good, or we could posit that holocaust will benefit our society. Neither of these things, by themselves, is a compulsion to holocaust. We'd need the addition of a different evaluative premise. We obviously don't do everything that's good, or that will benefit us...the situation is identical no matter which direction you take something (and regardless..again, of morality's ontological status).

In either case, generalized, we'd need some premise along the lines of "we should always do whats good, or whats good for our society/we should never do whats bad, or whats bad for our society". Neither of these things qualifies as a moral fact in a realists conception. The specific nature of obligation (it's limits) and how we determine the consequence or reward of success or failure in obligation is actually a big deal in contemporary moral realism. It forms a sort of trifecta of related but distinct subjects.

The moral schema.
Purported obligations.
Coherent consequence.

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Messages In This Thread
Morality - by Agnostico - December 17, 2018 at 3:31 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: Morality - by LadyForCamus - December 17, 2018 at 4:01 pm
RE: Morality - by Losty - December 18, 2018 at 2:54 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - December 17, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 17, 2018 at 4:52 pm
RE: Morality - by Mr.Obvious - December 17, 2018 at 5:05 pm
RE: Morality - by Simon Moon - December 17, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Morality - by brewer - December 17, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 1:24 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: Morality - by Grandizer - December 17, 2018 at 8:36 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - December 18, 2018 at 7:05 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 10:27 am
RE: Morality - by Abaddon_ire - December 18, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 18, 2018 at 12:38 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2018 at 8:39 pm
RE: Morality - by ignoramus - December 17, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: Morality - by AFTT47 - December 18, 2018 at 12:33 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 1:20 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 1:26 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 1:25 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 1:28 am
RE: Morality - by ignoramus - December 18, 2018 at 2:23 am
RE: Morality - by ignoramus - December 18, 2018 at 3:07 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 3:18 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 18, 2018 at 6:33 am
RE: Morality - by ignoramus - December 18, 2018 at 6:44 am
RE: Morality - by LadyForCamus - December 18, 2018 at 8:06 am
RE: Morality - by Mister Agenda - December 18, 2018 at 10:49 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 11:11 am
RE: Morality - by no one - December 18, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Morality - by no one - December 18, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 18, 2018 at 11:44 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 18, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Morality - by Abaddon_ire - December 23, 2018 at 1:20 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - December 23, 2018 at 3:31 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 24, 2018 at 5:32 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - December 24, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 2:19 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 18, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 2:42 pm
RE: Morality - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2018 at 2:43 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 2:51 pm
RE: Morality - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Morality - by no one - December 18, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 2:52 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: Morality - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2018 at 2:59 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: Morality - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2018 at 3:34 pm
RE: Morality - by Simon Moon - December 18, 2018 at 4:09 pm
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 19, 2018 at 1:25 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 20, 2018 at 7:46 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - December 20, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 20, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - December 20, 2018 at 9:16 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 20, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 18, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Morality - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 3:42 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 4:21 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2018 at 11:44 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 21, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 21, 2018 at 10:54 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 21, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 21, 2018 at 11:12 am
RE: Morality - by sdelsolray - December 21, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - December 21, 2018 at 11:21 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 21, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 21, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 21, 2018 at 1:54 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 21, 2018 at 6:02 pm
RE: Morality - by Grandizer - December 24, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 24, 2018 at 10:21 am
RE: Morality - by Grandizer - December 24, 2018 at 1:12 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 24, 2018 at 9:34 pm
RE: Morality - by Grandizer - December 25, 2018 at 9:27 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 1:55 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 26, 2018 at 8:40 am
RE: Morality - by LastPoet - December 24, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 24, 2018 at 11:20 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 2:06 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 2:20 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 26, 2018 at 2:04 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2018 at 2:12 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 26, 2018 at 2:32 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 2:37 am
RE: Morality - by downbeatplumb - December 26, 2018 at 6:50 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 7:46 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - December 26, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 26, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 28, 2018 at 4:57 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 28, 2018 at 7:56 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 28, 2018 at 9:17 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 8:09 am
RE: Morality - by brewer - December 26, 2018 at 2:35 pm
RE: Morality - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:47 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2018 at 2:37 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 2:51 am
RE: Morality - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 26, 2018 at 2:41 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 26, 2018 at 2:55 am
RE: Morality - by Fake Messiah - December 26, 2018 at 4:36 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2018 at 2:42 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2018 at 2:54 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2018 at 3:01 am
RE: Morality - by ohreally - December 26, 2018 at 5:47 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 26, 2018 at 6:59 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 26, 2018 at 7:27 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 28, 2018 at 9:13 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 28, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 28, 2018 at 6:40 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 28, 2018 at 7:01 pm
RE: Morality - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 7:37 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:16 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 2:34 pm
RE: Morality - by LastPoet - December 31, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:41 pm
RE: Morality - by Amarok - December 28, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: Morality - by brewer - December 29, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2018 at 9:05 am
RE: Morality - by Amarok - December 31, 2018 at 6:08 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: Morality - by Amarok - December 31, 2018 at 8:14 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2018 at 8:48 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - December 31, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - December 31, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 1, 2019 at 3:59 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 1, 2019 at 4:03 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 1, 2019 at 4:22 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 1, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 2, 2019 at 2:52 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 2, 2019 at 10:03 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 1, 2019 at 4:10 pm
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 1, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: Morality - by downbeatplumb - January 2, 2019 at 5:38 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 8:55 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 15, 2019 at 10:42 pm
RE: Morality - by ohreally - January 16, 2019 at 4:51 am
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 16, 2019 at 5:07 am
RE: Morality - by Mister Agenda - January 16, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 16, 2019 at 12:40 pm
RE: Morality - by Mister Agenda - January 18, 2019 at 10:18 am
RE: Morality - by Simon Moon - January 16, 2019 at 11:51 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 12:20 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 12:55 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 2:47 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 3:00 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 3:07 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 3:21 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 3:26 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 3:42 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 4:32 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 16, 2019 at 4:45 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 16, 2019 at 6:36 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 8:53 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 9:41 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 9:54 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 10:02 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 10:13 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2019 at 9:58 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2019 at 10:12 am
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 20, 2019 at 10:50 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 22, 2019 at 12:31 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 12:41 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 22, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 1:00 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 22, 2019 at 1:00 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 1:23 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 22, 2019 at 1:35 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 22, 2019 at 1:39 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 1:59 pm
RE: Morality - by Simon Moon - January 22, 2019 at 1:57 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 16, 2019 at 4:50 pm
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 16, 2019 at 11:53 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 8:28 am
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 17, 2019 at 6:36 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 7:39 am
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 18, 2019 at 10:51 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 18, 2019 at 3:06 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 6:36 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 18, 2019 at 7:56 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 9:54 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 18, 2019 at 10:07 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 10:35 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 20, 2019 at 5:27 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 20, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 20, 2019 at 6:10 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 20, 2019 at 6:25 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 21, 2019 at 5:27 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 22, 2019 at 9:41 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 10:15 am
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 23, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2019 at 9:19 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 9:28 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 10:03 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 10:22 am
RE: Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 17, 2019 at 10:30 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 10:57 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 11:34 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 11:41 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 11:42 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 12:15 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 17, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 17, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 17, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 10:01 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 18, 2019 at 11:12 am
RE: Morality - by Agnostico - January 18, 2019 at 10:15 am
RE: Morality - by Abaddon_ire - January 19, 2019 at 7:10 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 18, 2019 at 10:25 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 11:52 am
RE: Morality - by DLJ - January 23, 2019 at 4:38 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 18, 2019 at 6:11 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 18, 2019 at 6:27 pm
RE: Morality - by EgoDeath - January 18, 2019 at 8:32 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2019 at 8:12 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2019 at 11:13 pm
RE: Morality - by Angrboda - January 20, 2019 at 11:55 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 21, 2019 at 12:16 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 22, 2019 at 11:06 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 11:29 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 22, 2019 at 12:09 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 12:22 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 11:40 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 12:05 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 12:29 pm
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RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 12:37 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 1:03 pm
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 1:52 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 22, 2019 at 2:06 pm
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 3:23 pm
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 5:27 pm
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 22, 2019 at 7:20 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 23, 2019 at 7:48 am
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2019 at 12:00 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 23, 2019 at 8:37 am
RE: Morality - by DLJ - January 24, 2019 at 3:53 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 24, 2019 at 5:45 am
RE: Morality - by DLJ - January 24, 2019 at 8:26 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 24, 2019 at 9:30 am
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RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 23, 2019 at 8:54 am
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 23, 2019 at 4:05 pm
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 23, 2019 at 8:48 pm
RE: Morality - by vulcanlogician - January 30, 2019 at 6:00 pm
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RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 23, 2019 at 10:30 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 24, 2019 at 9:45 am
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 24, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 24, 2019 at 10:41 am
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RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 24, 2019 at 11:14 am
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RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 25, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2019 at 5:15 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 25, 2019 at 6:16 pm
RE: Morality - by Brian37 - January 25, 2019 at 6:38 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2019 at 6:53 pm
RE: Morality - by Acrobat - January 25, 2019 at 10:06 pm
RE: Morality - by The Grand Nudger - January 25, 2019 at 10:08 pm

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