(December 18, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I don't hate you Drich. How many times do I have to say that before it will sink into that thick skull of yours?
Side question. Have you actually read Nietzsche?
Not as a study, but I have researched his world view enough to see it's the foundation many 'self' centered belief structures. I know of several of his more popular quotes and the reasoning behind them. I've study nihilism as a point of discussion but again not in depth..
over all as a person and a philosopher I'm not impressed. at best I would call him an observationist who saw how things worked and described them easily enough. but to be a philosopher one must be more than an observationist otherwise if you can not hone and sharpen your observations to have other's only see your conclusions then you fail as a philosopher. So again Not impressed. At best I would see him and an observationist of the human condition.
Because from what I see he is laying the seeds of an oppressive society by selling the illusion of freedom from God, in his dual morality system. Mater/slave morality. which gave rise to one superior race dominates all others. Which is why Hitler gravitated towards the teaching of this nut bag. He in his personal philosophy had ultimately a different conclusion, but was not a strong enough philosopher to sell people to his way of thinking. Which is Why Hitler took his base moral code and twisted it to sell the germans in thinking they were all 'masters' or where there to support the masters of deutschland. In this regard hitler becomes a better philosopher the Mr. Friedrich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb0erqaNU24
I would not go so far as to say no nietzsche no hitler, but I would say 1/3 of hitler's platform about the master race and world domination would not had have the same foundation and appeal as it ultimately did. Nietzsche carved a path through the hearts of the pre war german people and hitler paved it making it quick and simple to polarize the people against the world.
And even in the 1960's he fails again as a philosopher as the hippy movement adopts principles/observations he made but twisted them into the whole dirt foot free love hippy movement which again is not his intention. Which is why I say he is a poor philosopher. he makes good observations as people like hitler and the hippies use them to bond and manipulate people into thinking they have some inside track on the world, but fails to come to the same societal conclusion he himself would have.