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Are you the monster you want to be?
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RE: Are you the monster you want to be?
(December 19, 2018 at 3:39 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(December 19, 2018 at 3:28 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Do you have a source for this?  Some of the claims seem questionable, so I'm curious about who came to these conclusions.  Not saying it's a wrong synopsis of the person's view, but still would like to know the origin of it. Thanks in advance. Smile

Slave/master morality system is articulated in Beyond Good and Evil. The stuff about decline is mentioned throughout his works, but the most clear description of the phenomenon is outlined in a chapter of Nietzsche's Twilight of the Idols. I'm taking stuff from a bunch of sources (all books by Nietzsche) put together with a few years of reflection.

If a particular item seems questionable, quote it from my last post, and I will dig up the corresponding work by Nietzsche and quote the passage if you'd like. It would be fun for me, actually. Been steeped in Plato a bit too much lately.

edit: here's my last point touched upon in The Will to Power

Quote:1. Nihilism stands at the door: whence comes this uncanniest of all guests? Point of departure: it is an error to consider "social distress" or "physiological degeneration" or, worse, corruption, as the cause of nihilism. Ours is the most decent and compassionate age. Distress, whether of the soul, body, or intellect, cannot of itself give birth to nihilism (i.e., the radical repudiation of value, meaning, and desirability). Such distress always permits a variety of interpretations. Rather: it is in one particular interpretation, the Christian-moral one, that nihilism is rooted.

2. The end of Christianity--at the hands of its own morality (which cannot be replaced), which turns against the Christian God (the sense of truthfulness, developed highly by Christianity, is nauseated by the falseness and mendaciousness of all Christian interpretations of the world and of history; rebound from "God is truth" to the fanatical faith "All is false"...
http://nietzsche.holtof.com/Nietzsche_th...book_I.htm
(see the bold)

Sure, and appreciated. I read through what you said again. There were a couple parts where I couldn't tell if it was you referring to Nietzsche's view or it was you interpreting.  Not going to claim to be an expert on Nietzsche though, so good enough.  Thanks for sharing.
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Are you the monster you want to be? - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by onlinebiker - December 18, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by no one - December 18, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 18, 2018 at 2:24 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 18, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Drich - December 18, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Angrboda - December 18, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Drich - December 19, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 19, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 19, 2018 at 3:28 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 19, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 19, 2018 at 4:49 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 19, 2018 at 5:05 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 19, 2018 at 5:11 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by ignoramus - December 18, 2018 at 6:13 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 19, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Cod - December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by ignoramus - December 18, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by brewer - December 18, 2018 at 7:41 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by DodosAreDead - December 18, 2018 at 10:43 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by ignoramus - December 18, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Shell B - December 18, 2018 at 11:13 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Rev. Rye - December 18, 2018 at 11:20 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Jackalope - December 18, 2018 at 11:22 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by unsapien - December 18, 2018 at 11:23 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by energizer bunny - December 18, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by tackattack - December 19, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Grandizer - December 19, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Angrboda - December 19, 2018 at 12:12 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 19, 2018 at 4:57 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Drich - December 20, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 20, 2018 at 5:23 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Drich - December 21, 2018 at 10:50 am
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Belacqua - January 5, 2019 at 8:09 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Belacqua - January 6, 2019 at 3:22 am
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2019 at 12:33 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 19, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by LastPoet - December 19, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by GUBU - December 19, 2018 at 5:00 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 19, 2018 at 5:09 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2018 at 5:15 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by vulcanlogician - December 20, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: Are you the monster you want to be? - by T0 Th3 M4X - January 5, 2019 at 4:06 pm

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