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Allah is ENERGY
RE: Allah is ENERGY
(March 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Mahdi Ibrahim Wrote: Why it is not a valid argument form when the premises are declarative statements!? ... lol  Hehe
Easy. Your premises are not declaritive statements, rather they are ambiguous sentence fragments that nobody can parse.

(March 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Mahdi Ibrahim Wrote: and if this is not a valid argument form... 
If everyone responds by saying WTF is this? Then you have clearly failed in communicating whatever it is.

(March 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Mahdi Ibrahim Wrote: لا إله إلا الله

First Premise: No God (matter) <- - - - declarative statement, with True or False
I have no idea. You claim it as a declaritive statement "No God (matter)" and everyone is going "WTF?". It isn't a statement of anything, just three disconnected words.

(March 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Mahdi Ibrahim Wrote: Second Premise: Only Energy (Light) <- declarative statement, with True or False
Premise 2 makes it no better. It is impossible to tell WTF you are on about.


(March 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Mahdi Ibrahim Wrote: -------------------------------------------------------
Argument: Allah exist, you have no existence.
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And the conclusion is...WTF?


(March 2, 2019 at 11:57 am)Mahdi Ibrahim Wrote: Then what is the valid argument form? What type of statement can be a declarative statement? What type of statement can be the premises to support an argument?
Well, so far, you seem to be claiming something about allah. What that might be is anyone's guess. For all I know you are claiming pixies are real and there actually is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

There is simply no way to parse your crapulence.
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